question about use

[BDEVER001]

I am a 6' tall 195lb male in good athletic shape. I am looking at adding 20-25 lbs of lean body mass. I am possibly going to take 20mg of D-bol for 30 days along with 50mg of Anadrol for 20 days. I can't find much on if these two taken in combination are ok. I know I'll get the weight gain but I am more concerned of the effects on my liver. I am new to this so I am looking for any suggestions.

Thanks

[Mafiusu]

not a good idea man.. not at all

[Alphatier]

First of all you may be a little light for 6'.

Also, orals are not the way to go...man up dude, it's a ****ing needle, not a knife or anything!!!

[Papa Smurf]

How old are you bro!
Years lifting?
Cycle exp?
Diet?
Your PCT?

[BDEVER001]

I'm 28 years old...have been lifting on and off for the last 10 years...am in fairly athletic shape. This is my first ever cycle and I am looking to add some weight and lean mass. Also I have been ramping up to a 4000 calorie a day diet with at least 250 grams of protein a day.

[howz31]

there really is no need to stack d-bol with anadrol. anadrol itself will give u all the strength and mass gains u could ever hope to get. u can easily put on 20 pounds with this alone. if i were u, i would stack it with some test from the beginning and continue with the test for 3 to 4 weeks after anadrol is discontinued. you are gonna lose alot of the gains that u get with anadrol, especially the weight gain because most of the weight u do gain will be water weight. this chemical is usually used for quantitative gains, not quality gains. also, you are definately gonna need some type of pct without a doubt. as far as damage to your liver, the cycle you are planning is very short so i wouldnt be too concerned with permanent damage to your liver.

[time 4 a *CHANGE*]

test e or c is the way to go

[chicmagnet]

Go with test e if pinning is an issue, just something you have to get used to if your serious. But before you start anything make sure you look into Post Cycle Therapy ie pct otherwise most of your effort and money will be wasted.

[howz31]

There are two big reasons you shouldn't be taking anadrol anyways.

1. this is your first cycle. anadrol is a pretty harsh chemical to take on a first cycle. you should start with something like deca or eq. these chemicals are much more tolerated by your body with very mild, if any, side effects.

2. you are talking about wanting to gain lean mass. anadrol and d-bol are not gonna give u the lean mass gains u want. these chemicals are strictly made for bulking people up with fast gains. they are gonna make u appear puffy and bloated, not lean. on the upside though, u do get huge when taking these two chemicals but the downside is that u wont keep these results. expect to lose probably 60 or 70 percent of the gains that you did get (and that might be being conservative) when u get off.

[Alphatier]

There are two big reasons you shouldn't be taking anadrol anyways.

1. this is your first cycle. anadrol is a pretty harsh chemical to take on a first cycle. you should start with something like deca or eq. these chemicals are much more tolerated by your body with very mild, if any, side effects.

2. you are talking about wanting to gain lean mass. anadrol and d-bol are not gonna give u the lean mass gains u want. these chemicals are strictly made for bulking people up with fast gains. they are gonna make u appear puffy and bloated, not lean. on the upside though, u do get huge when taking these two chemicals but the downside is that u wont keep these results. expect to lose probably 60 or 70 percent of the gains that you did get (and that might be being conservative) when u get off.

Please don't try to give advice if you don't know what you're talking about!!

I guess you were suggesting EQ or Deca to be run alone. Bad idea...ever heard of Deca Dick?! Guess not!

Let's say that you were suggesting EQ or Deca to be run along side of test, it isn't a good idea to run 2 different compounds in your first cycle. Everybody is different, and he might react badly to deca or eq. No problem just stop either one and continue with the test, right? Wrong, because he hasn't experienced neither one before he will not know which compound is causing the bad sides.

Test only is the way to go for a first cycle.

[BDEVER001]

thanks man. that sounds like pretty good advice. I am now reading about the importance of PCT. I DO NOT want my dick to stop working. What about d-bol stacked with test e for 30 days followed by pct?

[Big]

Test e for 30 days? Please do some research, all your questions and more are answered in the stickies.

[lovbyts]

thanks man. that sounds like pretty good advice. I am now reading about the importance of PCT. I DO NOT want my dick to stop working. What about d-bol stacked with test e for 30 days followed by pct?

So you want to only take it long enough for it to shut down your natural testosterone but not long enough to see/get any benefits?

Test should be ran 12-14 weeks or there is not use taking it.

Read the stickies and you will find all kinds of good information on first cycles.

[Free Will]

test e or c is the way to go

/\ /\ /\ agreed ...stick to test bro ...i am on my first ever cycle and if you ask anyone the general concensus is test for first time steroid users ...500mg a week for 12 weeks with nolva and clomi for pct to be taken 14 days after last injection