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Im getting ready to start a cycle of trenbolone and winstrol. A buddy is taking the same but is of way different build. He is having good success with it, and I would like some advice on the best approach to how much and how often to inject. I am 6' tall, 260lbs. at 30yrs old. I am not looking to bulk up for I feel I am happy with my size, i just want to shed some excess fat and get lean and cut. Could you please give details on what you all think would be best.
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diet and cardio to drop the Bf.
tren/winny. not a good idea without test
Last edited by Mafiusu; 06-22-2009 at 03:35 PM.
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agreed, very poor cycle choice.
body fat%?
planned pct?
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So your saying do not run the tren and winstrol without the test? Or one or the other with the test? I do alot of cardio through boxing workouts and running. I have a good grip on my diet now and am wanting to really get things started again.
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....Originally Posted by Big
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26%, would like to get down in the mid teens. I also would like advice/suggestions on pct! I am open for any and all suggestions.
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dayum.. start with getting the diet in check and hitting the cardio.
gear is not the answer
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agreed^
tweak diet and training until you are below 15%
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Not ready for a gear bro! BF is too high. Lots of risk High blood, Gyno etc. Like most here is gonna tell you. Cardio and Diet will be the recomendation for now.
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Listen to the guys above.
You should NOT be using steroids with such HIGH bodyfat...the risks are much greater for estrogen sides like GYNO, and other risks as well....
Steroids do NOT burn fat on their own. If your diet is off, then you will not see much in the way of gains.
You also risk, and I assume your buddy is already risking, libido issues and erection problems....if not now, then it will come soon.....
you are shutting down your body's natural production of testosterone.. that is the ONE hormone that makes men, MEN !!
you really don't want to shut that down without replacing it with exogenous test to make up for what you are losing OR you are asking for many problems !!!
your friend is taking a huge gamble that he most likely will lose
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Cool! Thanks for the advice. Its making alot better since.
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In your oppinion, when the time is right. What is the best fat burning cycle. As well as in the meantime, what supplements that I could get from my local nutrition stores would you guys recommend.
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when the time is right, you won't need a fat burning cycle
other than a good multi-vitamin, put the effort and money into diet.
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Besides winny for bulk?
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I believe he stated that he wasn't looking to bulk?
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ah my appoligies i misread that
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