I wanna know !!

[The Deuce]

I have successfully done 4 cycles in my life that included the compound Trenbolone (Ace *2, Enan * 1, and Tri-Tren * 1) ...

Out of all those times I can safely say I have experienced the fabled TREN COUGH just once and it was not that bad ... but from what I have read on here before is that it can get ridiculous.. and I am about to start my 5th time of Tren ...

What i wanna know is , if I do get this TREN COUGH... what do I do? What can i do to save myself from impending death.. lol... is there anything I should know before I start, anything I can do to prevent it, what do I do IF it happens.. It hasn't happened yet but I am trying to prepare myself mentally for this in the event it does occur. I am trying to remain optimistic that it will not happen to me but I wanna help my anxiety by at least being prepared in the unfortunate event it goes wrong...


Experiences and Thoughts my bros !! Please and Thank you !!

[redz]

In my 2 cycles with Tren E I never once came across this. Though I have heard of it and it seems Tren Ace causes it more frequently atleast thats what I've noticed form people claiming they got the tren cough.

[T-MOS]

Nothing...you will NOT die, you will just deal with it !!

It feels like you can't breath
you will cough like you are coughing up a lung
it will last about 5 minutes
Then you will be fine

[The Deuce]

Nice !! So it really isn't as big of deal as everyone makes it out to be?? I mean from what i have heard is that the cough is so bad you can't catch your breath and you can end up passing out over the lack of oxygen that you are not receiving .... when I had it once I coughed for like 30 seconds .. it was pretty bad... and I saw stars and shizzit and was like WHOA !! That was intense.. 5 minutes .. thats a lil crazy though... hopefully my body sticks to not giving the TREN COUGH to me...lol...

[T-MOS]

It feels like a big deal at the time. I felt like I wanted to die. Its a painful cough. never felt a pain like it. 5 minutes may be exaggerated, but it certainly felt like that long. No, you can still breath, it just feels like you can't. NO PASSING OUT ever

[Dancer]

I have successfully done 4 cycles in my life that included the compound Trenbolone (Ace *2, Enan * 1, and Tri-Tren * 1) ...

Out of all those times I can safely say I have experienced the fabled TREN COUGH just once and it was not that bad ... but from what I have read on here before is that it can get ridiculous.. and I am about to start my 5th time of Tren ...

What i wanna know is , if I do get this TREN COUGH... what do I do? What can i do to save myself from impending death.. lol... is there anything I should know before I start, anything I can do to prevent it, what do I do IF it happens.. It hasn't happened yet but I am trying to prepare myself mentally for this in the event it does occur. I am trying to remain optimistic that it will not happen to me but I wanna help my anxiety by at least being prepared in the unfortunate event it goes wrong...


Experiences and Thoughts my bros !! Please and Thank you !!

I don't wanna start another shit storm but I need to be honest here cause man's health matter:

I am happy this a forum that banned the use of UGL names or/and mention of the exact labs; so what I am gonna say is not going to have a crap load of dip shits that are dealers come outta the woods...

<<< Having said that I wanna talk about tren (you pick the ester does not really matter) the actual compound does not make your lungs feel like they are gonna blow the F up. Its the combo of solvent/oil/dissolution process that makes the homogeneous little golden colored little majic solution.

So lets see what all is used to make homogeneous solution:

There is BB: (BENZYL BENZOATE)

http://hazard.com/msds/mf/gsc/files/md101390.html

No haz mat reaction to O2 or CO2

I do recall in large quantities it is carcinogenic, But so is Sweat and low


We got BA: Benzyl alcohol

http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Benzyl_alcohol-9927099



if you shot up a solution that is 90% BA it will cause scarring... alcohol will do that but thats at the injection site not in the lungs... The haz mat reaction in the lungs with either O2 or CO2 can cause scarring of the lungs...

There is no solvent known that is just fun to drink (I am not at all implying anyone here thinks that just stating it) they will all cause irritation or other sides in larger quanities... But the "super solvent" causes haz mat reaction(s)

No haz mat reaction to O2 or CO2

Next is our PEGs (weight does not matter 300 or 400 or whatever):

http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Poly...ol_300-9926619

Not much is known but there is not any cases of scaring or counter reactions with any gases... but let me say please do not inject a PEG solution just IMHO not the nest solutions to inject due to the weird shit it does in the depot.



And finally we have Guaiacol:

This so called "super solvent" can be used to effectively put alotta of aas into solution that would not go without this exact solvent... its a easy solvent to use and work with. Even when the AAS solution is exposed to colder temps the crystalization process does not happen fast...

http://www.ch.ntu.edu.tw/~genchem99/...3/guaiacol.pdf


Hazardous Decomposition occurs once it is exposed to Carbon monoxide &/or CO2....reactant

[Dancer]

Let add just a tit bit here:

You gonna get tren from a UGL or perhaps home brew

When you are shitting your lungs out the problem is that UGL may have used Guaiacol to make the solution.

Can Guaiacol cause scarring once in your lungs... yes, why? When a molecule has a hazardous material decomposition once exposed to a reactant it is defined as a not so peaceful break down of the given matterial causing harm or hazard.

So if you are gonna use Tren find out what the solution is made from (solvent(s))

If you are gonna make your own; make sure that you ask what solvents are used in the kit you are gonna be using...

If a particular UGL has used guaiacol you now have some info to consider the situation.

[Immortal Soldier]

There have been reports of tren causing lung scars in a few cases in some people, it couldnt be verified to do the fact that tren is not tested on humans.

[Dancer]

There have been reports of tren causing lung scars in a few cases in some people, it couldnt be verified to do the fact that tren is not tested on humans.

If you recall back to the 1980s and even 1990s there was stocks of left over Negma parabolan, trenbolone hexahydrobencylcarbonate. Negman human tested it and ergo there was no problems...

The acetic acid is also used predominantly in many pharm applications...

So if we go through the process of elimination you got the compound taken care off, you are left with the remainder of the solution...

Does anyone ever wonder why some "brands" of tren are known for cough and others are not?

[illwillogical]

Does the cough usually occur during injection? It would suck to break a needle off in your ass because all of a sudden you start coughing uncontrolably.

[gymnerd]

See I heard it was only from Tren ace made from finaplix pellets.

[seriousmass]

Does the cough usually occur during injection? It would suck to break a needle off in your ass because all of a sudden you start coughing uncontrolably.

lol.. no bro.

the only time you'll cough during an AAS injection is if you have injected into a vein LOL. but you'll be f*cking sick as well. and barely able to breathe

[The Deuce]

WELL I GUESS THAT EXPLAINS IT DANCER !!

I use a high quality UGL and always have.. so that is probably WHY i have never gotten the tren cough.

That would explain a whole heck of a lot now dont ya think, and as it be I will be using the same lab when I run it this time so.. NICE.. if what you says is true then I am all sizzet !! I'll dance to that !!

[Phate]

Does the cough usually occur during injection? It would suck to break a needle off in your ass because all of a sudden you start coughing uncontrolably.

it's really really hard to break off a needle, if you do then good luck, lol

See I heard it was only from Tren ace made from finaplix pellets.

maybe from improperly made tren ace from pellets were the person left some filler but i doubt this one

lol.. no bro.

the only time you'll cough during an AAS injection is if you have injected into a vein LOL. but you'll be f*cking sick as well. and barely able to breathe

you don't have to inject INTO a vein, you just have to pierce/nick/go through one, as you draw the needle some of the oil will follow and get in the vein

[TITANIUM]

I'm must be crazy.Working my way up to tren.I am lazy and have no glute pain when drawing and injecting with 20g needles.So,this would tell me that I would inject myself while laying down on the bed.That way if I passed out because someone made my tren with paint thinner,I would cough, pass out, and roll over on my beloved 20g needle.Not going to break that off in my ass!!!!LOL

[got fina?]

Ive experienced the cough a few times. you wont die and its easy to deal with it.

For me it usually goes away in like 10-20 seconds.

Good luck!

[Rickson]

I know this will date me but I was making fina from pellets before animal had come out with the original magic solution and I have gotten the fina cough with just a BA and BB solution. The first time I got it there were no real discussions about fina cough and I thought I was dying. I actually had dialed 9 and 1 before the coughing subsided. What I do now is take short shallow breaths and breath out fully. I also clear my throat often and try to avoid coughing. This seems to control it when it happens and minimizes the time it takes to go away. It doesn't happen that often, but I do get it every once in a while still.

[The Deuce]

Yah basically I have nothing to worry about, I appreciate all the feedback, it was more or less to find out what I should do IF i experience it this time I run it..Since I now Know what brings it about.. and i am using the same LAB I have always used then I wont run into the issue and if I do now I know that it is really nothing big.. just breathe through it and 15-30 seconds later I am all set !! !!

[Dancer]

I know this will date me but I was making fina from pellets before animal had come out with the original magic solution and I have gotten the fina cough with just a BA and BB solution. The first time I got it there were no real discussions about fina cough and I thought I was dying. I actually had dialed 9 and 1 before the coughing subsided. What I do now is take short shallow breaths and breath out fully. I also clear my throat often and try to avoid coughing. This seems to control it when it happens and minimizes the time it takes to go away. It doesn't happen that often, but I do get it every once in a while still.

Breaking the pellets could add extra additives to the solution...

I made it from powder before an no problems... I have made it from pellets and I share your experience...

I really don't wanna get to deep into this but I just feel it should be public knowledge that the cough may not be so innocent...


UpJohn has marketed test depot for a generation now... It is a bb/ba/oil solution...

lung scarring is no joke.

[The Deuce]

Lung Scarring could mean what exactly? Permanent damage obviously... but to what extent??

I smoked cigs for a decade.. been quit now for about 4 years .. closer to 5 but imagine thaat i must have done some sort of irrevocable damage to them from the 10 years of gross cigarette smoking... i had to have..

Now lung scarring from Tren is this worse than what a cigarette can do to you??