Jump start Test E cycle with sus 250?

[SeXc1985]

Sup im in week2 of my 12week test E cycle and i was woundering if i could jump start my cycle with sustanon 250 since i have 50 amps of it laying around and it has test prop in it.

I have d-bol but i dont really want to jump start my cycle with that becuase of the water retention and hard on the liver since i dont have a supp like milk thistle or liv 52 to take with it.

So has anyone ever jumped start there cycle with sus before, can it be done?

[redz]

It can be done but there probably isnt alot of prop in the sustanon but still should help you feel it sooner.

[SeXc1985]

lets say i decide to do this, how would this be done?

[LexusIS09]

lets say i decide to do this, how would this be done?

I have used sustanon as a kick-start before.

Prop is much more appropriate though.

Basically by using sustanon as a kick-start your blood-levels will be fairly uneven throughout the first 6 weeks of the cycle (because the long-esters will begin to peak at the same time as your Test-E is peaking in blood concentration)

IMO this is how I would run it:

(weeks 1 - 4) Sustanon @ 125mg x 4 injections per week = 500mg EW
(weeks 1 - 12) Test-E @ 250mg x 2 injections per week = 500mg EW.

Good luck. Have fun bro.

Note: if you want to do this really scientifically, and try to preserve the most even blood-concentrations, then you could determine how many mg's of long-estered test are in the sustanon (IE how many mg of deconate/cyp)... and then down the dosage of test-e you initially inject for the first 5 weeks. But this method is quite confusing, and relatively difficult. lol.

[Phate]

Sup im in week2 of my 12week test E cycle and i was woundering if i could jump start my cycle with sustanon 250 since i have 50 amps of it laying around and it has test prop in it.

I have d-bol but i dont really want to jump start my cycle with that becuase of the water retention and hard on the liver since i dont have a supp like milk thistle or liv 52 to take with it.

So has anyone ever jumped start there cycle with sus before, can it be done?

you wouldn't really be kickstarting(as a kickstart is performed by using a compound that has a shorter ester or is processed quickly)

what you are doing is more of a frontload(since active life is dose dependant a frontload can be used to increase serum concentrations of whatever you are injecting) since sust has very little propionate ester in it and is mostly medium and long esters

[LexusIS09]

since sust has very little propionate ester in it and is mostly medium and long esters

Actually buddy, you need to look at the 3 - 4 other estered-tests in sustanon (depending on the brand)

IE (Phenylpropionate) which is very, very similar to prop. (4.5 day active life).

So yah... you're kinda wrong... again..

[SeXc1985]

Ty lexus will think about it, i dont know if i like the uneven blood-levels though but thank you for your advice.

[Phate]

Actually buddy, you need to look at the 3 - 4 other estered-tests in sustanon (depending on the brand)

IE (Phenylpropionate) which is very, very similar to prop. (4.5 day active life).

So yah... you're kinda wrong... again..

here is the breakdown for sustanon

Isocaproate=60mg Phenylpropionate=60mg Decanoate=100mg Propionate=30mg

it has 30mg of prop, the next biggest ester is phenylprop(whos active life is over 2x as long as prop btw), then you have two long esters: isocaproate(9 day active life) and decanoate(15day active life)


stop trying to act like you know everything, you obviously don't or you would have agreed that you don't kickstart with sust due to almost 2/3 of the total esterfied test being long ester(160mg/250mg), this would be a frontload

[Dancer]

If you wanna start with a short ester grab you a cheap ass vial of test prop.

[ninesecz]

How hard is it to go to a grocery store, a pharmacy, or even Wal Mart and get some milk thistle??

[aldemoro]

how can i keep the bloat down??