second cycle questions

[LiamZ]

How do you delete this!!???

[ranging1]

ur wanna do a second cycle and thats all u can lift? also u have a rather high bodyfat
i think u should learn how to train and diet better
im 6 feet tall
bench 200pounds 12 reps
squat 150kg 6 reps
45 degree leg press 460kg 12 reps
barbel shoulder press 75kg 12 reps
i shrug 50kg each arm
i row 50kg each arm
deadlift 180kg 8 reps

and i only weigh 90kg
wat i think u need to do is learn to train and diet right
especially considering uve already done cycle
i just started my first cycle, 2 weeks in neally and im alot stronger and leaner then u
also u need to train legs, dont care about ur hockey, stairs aint gonna do shit, theyll build stamina and endurance not size
get a proper workout routine and diet
see what u can acheive
learn how ur body reacts to certain training, c what works for u
wen u got some descent size then get on the gear
i know this isnt what u want to hear
ur lifts arent bad, but considering uve run a cycle and thats what ur stats are its clear u dont know ur body well enough or have a descent foundation to run another cycle
just my opinion

if u do go ahead and do ur cycle, coz i know like most people here despite what we say ur still gonna go do a cycle, i suggest u drop the halo testin
test prop is a very effective mass builder alone, and finobolan added to it is more then enough, even if its ur seconf cycle i suggest u stick with these 2

[*RAGE*]

How old are you? and why did you leave that out?

Man I would not go with Tren for my second cycle, I would look at test prop, deca, npp, mast, winny couple of different ideas bro..

first post your diet in the diet forum

second do some research on the compounds you are thinking of running then match them up with your goals....

I have a questions what is you goal with this cycle????????????

what was your PCT (post cycle therapy) for your first cycle?

you have nothing about PCT so what is your planned one for this suspected cycle?

you help me help you

Peace

[LiamZ]

ranging1, you say do what works for me and well guess what this does. I only lift that because I was in a serious car accident and screwed up my back and this is my road to full recovery. Ive been on light weight like this for almost a year now andnow im moving up. What makes you stronger than me ? LOL.. what makes you think that /? because what i posted on here for lifting ? my pct will be Clomid 50/50/25/25 and my diet is basic and taken right from this site which is

8:30am: 1/2cup of oatmeal, 2 egg whites, whole wheat bread, glass of oj
10:30am: 8oz protien shake
12:30pm: 1/2 chicken breast, 1/2cup brown rice, 1/2 brocolli, water
2:30pm: 8oz protien shake
4:30pm: 2 cans tuna with lettuce,tomato, carrots, low fat dressing, water
6:30pm: 8oz protien shake, 2 egg whites
Workout
8:30pm: 3 egg white omlette w/tomatos 1/2 can chicken, water/flax
11:00: Bed

before you rip on this, im 29 and this has been working for me for atleast 8 months now but i will never turn down GOOD ideas

thanks

[chuckt12345]

hmmm about 1000mg tren a wk and halo on second cycle with those stats

NO

[LiamZ]

Prone , ive dont the research and I feel this combo will benefit me most due to

Tren is being used purely for its strength and hardening

Halo is for the obvious strength,fat loss and extra agression to drive and we all know why im throwing in the test


my goal as you asked is to lean out abit and go to 175LBBS at a min of 10% and max 13% BF.

[chuckt12345]

dude i dont even thnk most the vets on here will run 1000mg of tren per wk

[LiamZ]

well regardless of what the vets would or wouldnt run, why not put some info in on what a good mg would be then for my tren per week and maybe a reason for why it wouldnt be good.

now for you chuck, you realize there is a big difference between Tren Acetate(finaplix) and Tren 75 (finabolan) right ? it is recommened that 150mg daily be administered but broken into 2 equal shots.. so what you're saying is, the pro's dont know what their saying.. flame somewhere else man or like i said before ,
dont just give me a statement, back it up and explain why you think i shouldnt use it and that dose.. LOL thanks

[LiamZ]

anyone ?

[hankdiesel]

well regardless of what the vets would or wouldnt run, why not put some info in on what a good mg would be then for my tren per week and maybe a reason for why it wouldnt be good.

now for you chuck, you realize there is a big difference between Tren Acetate(finaplix) and Tren 75 (finabolan) right ? it is recommened that 150mg daily be administered but broken into 2 equal shots.. so what you're saying is, the pro's dont know what their saying.. flame somewhere else man or like i said before ,
dont just give me a statement, back it up and explain why you think i shouldnt use it and that dose.. LOL thanks

Please explain the diference in those two trens. Who told you to take 2ccs of prop ed for your first cycle?

[hankdiesel]

You don't train your lower body and your stats on those other lifts are terrible.....especially after that first cycle you described.

[LiamZ]

listen, i dont care about my stats , i was in a car wreck that nearly killed me, i had 2 weeks tops maybe and i say maybe of my cycle left , so ive been off all this time but working with physio , doesnt matter who told me to take 2cc ed , it worked and i was jacked , the accident squashed all of it , now, im asking about this combo, will it or wont it connect ? thats it , i cant say i appreciate the run around here, last time i was on here before accident this was the best site ever and now i cant get a straight answer from anyone.

and after that , are you telling me that 1000mgs of either of those trens do the same thing ? lol. come on, i can read ..

[G4R]

Tren 75, tell me.... are these pills?

[LiamZ]

yes sir they are.

[ranging1]

try mentioning the car accident part earlier, u think it would be relevant info for us t help u
well if ur training works for u, i suggest u do some dieting first and vary it up
18% body fat is way to high, u may think ur diet is working but if ur sitting that high in bodyfat maybe u need to re assess wat wors for u, or maybe ur training could be improved, almost any workout works for people, but a good workout can give u much better results
alot of people pack on excessive amounts of fat wen they bulk up, diet is linked to this yes, but training and rest also play and important role, considering ur on anabolics i think u should fix ur diet and training and rest protocol
if uve just recovered from the accident which u say have
then get into a propr training and diet program for ur entire body and try acheieve some better lifts and results naturally
also if ur tryng to lean out why not just stack a light amount of clen/T3 with a good foundation anabolic like test or primo
the clen n t2 in light amounts wil keep ur metabalsim high hile in a calorie defeceit and the anabolic ill help u maintain muscle mass
also i think u should try dieting and training naturally for awhile, it int hard to dro bodyfat wen ur sitting at a 18% mark, i always find it starts getting hard at about 11-12%, wen u get this low suggest u then consier anabolics

[G4R]

Did the bottle they came in have a green label on it? White bottle?

[LiamZ]

thank you ranging for your input. now you hit most of it there, i think my diet is fine which maybe its not and ill look into something else but i do lack sleep but each week that goes by i get alil more . I will take your input into consideration. thanks.

[LiamZ]

no sir they didnt..

[G4R]

I'm sorry, but "finabolan", "Tren 75", and they are pills..... that sounds like the exact ingredients of Fake Tren.....

And I also would never recommend Tren for someone on their 2nd cycle, IMO.

[LiamZ]

okay , now we're getting somewhere.. the guy i went to was alittle sketchy to me so im glad someone asked that cause i didnt think to mention even though I screwed up and listed it as shots in first post.. SO , now that i have a FAKE , i can go to something else, what would you suggest Going4****** , with the other 2 I have mentioned .. and thank you.

[LiamZ]

okay... now this is bullshit, just cracked the bottle open to see inside and there are redish horse looking pills inside... i was ****** off forsure ... so tren acetate now or anyother ideas that go with the other 2 ?

[G4R]

If you want my complete honost opinion, I would say wait until you dropped your BF% down another 5 or 6% naturally before you started anything.

The Halo isn't going to melt the fat away, it is kinda like a cutter, just going to help show definition in your body.

Also, is there a reason why you are wanting to run such a short cycle?

[LiamZ]

well the halo is only 4-5 weeks for safety from major sides but the rest will be 10 to 12 weeks. i know you said wait but if i dont cause i know im ready again , what would you throw in with those 2 instead of tren ??? im going to change diet like ranging said as well.

[G4R]

my goal as you asked is to lean out abit and go to 175LBBS at a min of 10% and max 13% BF.

Well, the dropping 5 extra pounds isn't all that hard, it's the dropping 5 - 8% BF that is going to be tough. And I will almost 100% guarentee you that no matter what AAS you use, you won't drop that BF like you want.

Now, that being said, IMO, I would still recommend you hold off on your cycle for a while, but, if you are going to do it regardless of what anyone recommends, and if you are convinced you are taking the Test and the Halo, then why even stack anything else with it? Why add more mass from an AAS if you are trying to cut weight?

Look, I will only mention it one more time.... please wait. Let us set you up a new diet for you to follow for a while, bust your butt in the gym, see if you can dedicate a year or two to the natural growth of your body, and then, when you have reached your physical max, then consider steroids... you will much happier with the results.

Good luck and BE CAREFUL

[LiamZ]

lol ok Going4 , you said set up a new diet for me , then I will hold off and see where it gets me before i decide to move further to a second cycle.. Im all ears for good diet. what do you suggest. BTW. got bf% calculated today and its 15% not 18.