Most painfull shot?

[Mylo333]

Hi

I was wondering what the most painfull AAS shot out there is? please give some detail curious to know how everyone handles the pain and shots, i'm currently doing 1cc of prop 100 a week trying to bump it up to eod but its painfull, the pain upon injecting is more of a burning pain and the pain a day later is a dead leg pain (i hit my quads) can barely bend my leg into squat position without imense pain,i know the science behind the pain and burning but damn its quite annoying and messes with my workouts, i just past my 1st shot on both quads, cant remember but i may have felt a lil pain on my 1st 2 shots of test e(nothing compared to what i'm feeling now but of course thats due to the ester ), so i'm kind of hoping my body gets used to this pain quicker so i can hit eod...wil this happen or will the pain persist throughout my cycle? any advice on shooting prop eod and minimising the pain will highly be appreciated...another annoying factor of prop is the test flu or prop fever...

[Reed]

Wait? So you are only injecting prop once a week??? FAIL

[DrZach]

If you think the shots are that bad you need to switch to Test E. ALOT lot painful...and you can inject twice a week.

Injecting Test Prop once a week is a complete waste and won't do anything for you. You really should do it everyday....EOD can be done....but once a week as the guy said above me.....FAIL.

[Reed]

i read this over and over and its seems a bit confusing on what you are running, 1st two shots of test e, 1cc of prop 100 a week

List what exactly and how you are running these drugs

[Mylo333]

Sorry let me clarify, this is my current cycle Deca 300 + prop 100 once a week, my 1st cylce i ever did was a test e cycle,sorry about the confusion, i can deal with the pain i really just wanted to know if the pain becomes bareable or remains the same throughout the cycle, the book i'm reading suggests i take prop and deca once a week, but i have done a bit of research on the use of both drugs and i have seen that shooting prop at least every other day would be more beneficial...

[Reed]

So if you have done your research why are not shooting prop eod then?? The book is wrong, you're practically just replacing the test you make naturally and shutting yourself down with the two compounds. This is bad.

You realize the prop ester peaks within 24-36 hours as steadily declines from there so basically your blood levels go up and then cut in half after 4.5 days then down some more after that. Also deca would is best shot twice a week in order to maintain stable blood levels. The goal is constant blood levels, and if you continue on this routine of prop once a week and deca once a week I can see some issues eventually arising

Order some sterile grapeseed or cottonseed oil and cut the prop

[Big]

horribly planned cycle.
in any event, super test 450 was the only oil based gear I found painful.

[TractionIssues]

You really need to shoot the Prop ED, even EOD is pushing it, and your doing it once a week? You will make barely any gains and are just bouncing your blood levels around for nothing. Pin ED or don't pin at all, if you can't take it, steroids are just no for you. No pain no gain.

[Mylo333]

Thanks for the info Reed, ummm thats what i'm trying to do now go eod on the prop i've only started my 2nd week yesterday so i'm going to shoot prop again tomorrow, my main prob is it affects my legs day workout, thats y i asked if the muscle gets used to the pain or if the pain continues, like i said with test e i never felt any pain besides the 1st 2 shots

"Order some sterile grapeseed or cottonseed oil and cut the prop" Reed are you saying i should mix the cottonseed oil with the prop?

Big how painful was your supertest 450? did you train with the pain or find a way to minimise the pain?

[TractionIssues]

Thanks for the info Reed, ummm thats what i'm trying to do now go eod on the prop i've only started my 2nd week yesterday so i'm going to shoot prop again tomorrow, my main prob is it affects my legs day workout, thats y i asked if the muscle gets used to the pain or if the pain continues, like i said with test e i never felt any pain besides the 1st 2 shots

"Order some sterile grapeseed or cottonseed oil and cut the prop" Reed are you saying i should mix the cottonseed oil with the prop?

Big how painful was your supertest 450? did you train with the pain or find a way to minimise the pain?

Yes your body gets used to it, and as for the pain, you just learn to deal with it. And yes adding cottonsed oil to your injection would slightly lower the pain, if it's really necessary.

[Big]

draw the prop into the syringe and then draw some sterile oil with it.
you need to be rotating injection sites as well.
the test 450 bothered me so I just gave it away and switched gear.

[Mylo333]

Ok cool i'l be doing prop ed or eod at least, thanks alot for the info i really appreciate it, so just to clarify and if anyone would like to add valuable info on this cycle please do so,

deca 300 x 2 a week
prop 100 x ED / EOD

how long can i run a cycle like this for 6 weeks?

Supertest is a combination of different test compounds right Big? have you ever tried aqua test(suspension)?

[TractionIssues]

Ok cool i'l be doing prop ed or eod at least, thanks alot for the info i really appreciate it, so just to clarify and if anyone would like to add valuable info on this cycle please do so,

deca 300 x 2 a week
prop 100 x ED / EOD

how long can i run a cycle like this for 6 weeks?

Supertest is a combination of different test compounds right Big? have you ever tried aqua test(suspension)?

No no, you don't shoot 100mg of Prop ED, that is 700mg/week of test, and prop is quite concentrated. IMO Prop works well with NPP, and Test E with Deca, although if this is what you have, you can run it for 8 weeks, 50-75mg Prop ED, and 2x 200mg Deca/week. And unless I missed it, what do you have planned for PCT? And what do you have on hand to fight Estrogen or Progestin related side effects?

[TractionIssues]

It's also hard to run Prop with Deca, because Deca is normally effective from 8-10 week cycles, and the Prop needs to be run longer than the Deca. But Prop shouldn't be run for 12 weeks (Not that it can't it's just better to run it for 6-8 weeks) Maybe what I would have done would be to start the Deca, and then start the Prop 2 weeks later, and end it 2 weeks after the Deca, that way your not running the Prop too long. Although you have already started...

[Lemonada8]

i do prop and winny ED, both homebrew and my prop is painless but the winny.... I HATE PEG!!!!!!!!! i dont have any burning pain, just a knot where i shot but the PEG is definately not moving much so i have a huge ass bump where i shot for the next few days :-/... but i wrote a article in the educational threads about injection pain (dealing with injections) and thats what i do...

and ur cycle is whack... u will want to listen to everyone else and what they are saying.... im gonna stay out of it

[Mylo333]

lol tnx advice taken

[TractionIssues]

No no, you don't shoot 100mg of Prop ED, that is 700mg/week of test, and prop is quite concentrated. IMO Prop works well with NPP, and Test E with Deca, although if this is what you have, you can run it for 8 weeks, 50-75mg Prop ED, and 2x 200mg Deca/week. And unless I missed it, what do you have planned for PCT? And what do you have on hand to fight Estrogen or Progestin related side effects?

I asked ^^^

[Mylo333]

Not my day TractionIssues lol my apologies to you again didnt see your post for some reason, PCT whats that...lol I'M KIDDING please dont flame me i was kidding, i have Nolva,Clomid and undecided on HCG

Nolva 10mg ED for 4 weeks
Clomid 50mg ED for 2 weeks therafter 25mg ED for 2 weeks
HCG

on hand Adex and Letro

[TractionIssues]

Not my day TractionIssues lol my apologies to you again didnt see your post for some reason, PCT whats that...lol I'M KIDDING please dont flame me i was kidding, i have Nolva,Clomid and undecided on HCG

Nolva 10mg ED for 4 weeks
Clomid 50mg ED for 2 weeks therafter 25mg ED for 2 weeks
HCG

on hand Adex and Letro

I would have to say your PCT is sub standard. I personally would not fool around when it comes to PCT, putting your body through the stresses of a cycle, it deserves a good recovery and to keep all the hard earned gains. Your PCT should look like this at the least:

Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

[Mylo333]

If i run 10mg Nolva ED during my cycle will i still need to hit my PCT that hard?

[Big]

If i run 10mg Nolva ED during my cycle will i still need to hit my PCT that hard?

that would not affect pct.

[TractionIssues]

Mylo I strongely suggest you learn more before you continue with your cycle, you still have alot to learn and you risk damaging yourself permanently. Trust me you will not regret it if you wait then do it when you are truly ready.

[Mylo333]

Your right, sadly i think stopping my cycle will be for the best, thanks again to everyone who contributed to this thread

[TractionIssues]

Your right, sadly i think stopping my cycle will be for the best, thanks again to everyone who contributed to this thread

Smart decision, you will not regret it. Patience is always rewarded.

[Mylo333]

Still curious to know what some of the experienced users have to say on the most painfull shots they have felt...

[ninesecz]

Prop Period! I found it very painful and decided to stop using it because of the pain

[Mylo333]

you didnt try to cut the prop with sterile oil?

[Lemonada8]

really? i find prop is painless... but i homebrew my own