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    I understand that the effectiveness of Testosterone supplementation is based on it's conversion to estrogen, meaning the less estrogen it has to work with the less "Gains" you'll see.

    We have several AIs today from mild (Adex) to strong (Letro) and I was wondering how one balances this with Testosterone for optimal gains/safety?

    For instance, if a user is running 300mg of Test E weekly and Adex at 1mg EOD and gains muscle alongside deveoping gyno on cycle. Would that same user have to increase his dosage of Test after replacing Adex with Letro during his second cycle?

    Something like 300mg of Test/Adex = 500mg of Test/Letro?

    I'm just trying to figure out if the lack of available estrogen in the body from Letro needs to be countered by an increase of Testosterone or other AAS to see similar or better gains.

    Some say stronger AIs kill gains and other say they don't. I just want to know the board's thoughts and experience on this matter.

    Thank you.

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    I think your over analysing this (I'm good at it too).

    Estrogen is needed for gains, yes. You wont some, not alot.

    Letro is too powerful IMHO when used during a cycle. You can use Aromsin and Arimidex to control E.

    Letro's use is only warranted when cutting, pre-competition, on massive doses of aromatasables, gyno reversal (though debatable) or VERY prone to estrogenic side effects.

    Other than that, dont use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    I think your over analysing this (I'm good at it too).

    Estrogen is needed for gains, yes. You wont some, not alot.

    Letro is too powerful IMHO when used during a cycle. You can use Aromsin and Arimidex to control E.

    Letro's use is only warranted when cutting, pre-competition, on massive doses of aromatasables, gyno reversal (though debatable) or VERY prone to estrogenic side effects.

    Other than that, dont use it.
    I thought I might be, but I was just curious.

    I'm running 37.5mg of Aromasin on cycle now and it's working, just not as well as I'd like.

    I like it for it's lipid benefit, but for an AI I'm really looking to step up to .625mg of Letro either twice a week on top of Aromasin or Letro EOD since I am gyno prone and I am cutting.

    Thoughts?

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    Get rid of the gyno and run Aromasin 10mg/ED or EOD. You could add Tamox 10mg/ED too if you feel its needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Get rid of the gyno and run Aromasin 10mg/ED or EOD. You could add Tamox 10mg/ED too if you feel its needed.
    I'm already running 37.5mg of Aromasin ED and I feel it's not enough. That's why I'm considering something stronger such as Letro at a low dose.

    Do you think this would be wise?
    Last edited by Lean1038; 07-14-2009 at 12:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    I'm already running 37.5mg of Aromasin ED and it's not enough. That's why I'm considering Letro at a low dose.
    Your Aromasin is underdosed then.

    25mg/Ed is a large dose IMHO.

    What dose of Test are you using and what compounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Your Aromasin is underdosed then.

    25mg/Ed is a large dose IMHO.

    What dose of Test are you using and what compounds?
    It verywell could be man.

    I got it from Research Stop.

    I'm currently running Test E @ 350-400mg weekly, Masteron E @ 520mg weekly, and Var @ 100mg ED.

    Should I simply raise my dose of Aromasin? Or switch to a low dose of Letro in your opinion.

    I very much appreciate the help man.

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