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Thread: realistically, with cycling, can one compete in the superheavies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by realjo1000 View Post
    i know most pros are on juice year-round. Do you guys think one can compete in the superheavies just with cycling? maybe 2-3 cycles a year?

    what are your thoughts?

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    Very few good super heavies out there and most are over 6'1. Also, 3 cycles a year is getting very close to year round.

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    I am going to eventually try and make it to the SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT.. It's my LONG TERM GOAL..

    First I have to accomplish getting into competition ready for like Middleweight or Light Heavy... and then from there just go up and up and up.. the way I am looking at it right now is I have a Lean Body Mass of 196lbs.. if I were to gain 10lbs of quality mass per year... which is about... .80lbs of muscle per month.. I will be ready for a SUPER HEAVY COMP in like 7 years or something like that if you figure in plateaus and stuff so IF.. and this is the HUGEST IF in the world.. IF I can make it that far, which is at least a half a decade away.. then i'll be competing at around 240-250lbs.. And no I will not be NATTY so of course I will obtain this through CYCLING.. but like FIREGUY said 3 cycles per year is almost year round.. except ..like me.. I do short burst cycles of like 8 weeks so I could essentially do 3 per year and still have the ratio correct of time on = time off pretty much down pact.

    This is all guesswork of course and it's going to depend a lot on how well I respond and what actually happens and all that but ... BABY STEPS my man... BABY STEPS..

    If your goal is to one day make it to SUPER HEAVIES .. Great !! That's an awesome LONG TERM GOAL just dont expect that to come suddenly

    I of course am getting assistance from all the knowledgeable people on here... ESPECIALLY FIREGUY.. see that AVATAR.. yah that's him.. HE KNOWS HIS SHIZZIT !!

    He will definitely make you see the reality of any situation.. at least that is what he did for me anyways...

    Good luck and TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN.. EAT EAT EAT... AND SLEEP SLEEP SLEEP...

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    Genetics also play a role,witch by your stats you seem to have.Good luck.

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    3 cycles = 30-36 weeks and with PCT/Recovery time off is another 30-36 weeks

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    I personally don't think that cycling will get you to the pro ranks at all in bodybuilding....granted i'm sure that some people don't have the yo-yo effect that much. But for me, regardless of how well i eat and such, i do lose muscle off cycle....and that simply wont get you there. I guess maybe if i could afford things like GH and such to 'bridge' more i could diminish a bit more...but still.....what's the worst that can happen? you get put on HRT and get to give yourself a shot once a week for the rest of your life....to me there's ALOT more to be gained

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    and don't give me that diet shit.....i'm bulking and hadn't had a cheat meal for like 3 weeks prior to last weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55;4***238
    I personally don't think that cycling will get you to the pro ranks at all in bodybuilding....granted i'm sure that some people don't have the yo-yo effect that much. But for me, regardless of how well i eat and such, i do lose muscle off cycle....and that simply wont get you there. I guess maybe if i could afford things like GH and such to 'bridge' more i could diminish a bit more...but still.....what's the worst that can happen? you get put on HRT and get to give yourself a shot once a week for the rest of your life....to me there's ALOT more to be gained
    yea def worth messing with your heath for a shiny trophy

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1;4***339
    yea def worth messing with your heath for a shiny trophy
    if that shiny trophy is a sandow...**** yea

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55 View Post
    if that shiny trophy is a sandow...**** yea
    Right.Good point.

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    even cycling all year round with steroids

    genetics still plays a big role, i mean im sure uve seens those guys in ur gym who are natural and are just massive naturally

    those big guys who get on steroids and run them heavily all year round are the ones who eventually become heavies

    alot of people cant become heavy weights even with ALOT of gear, genetics will still play a role

    and even if u become a heavy, that guy whos got the better genetics will destory u on the stage when hes 4% bf and 250 pounds

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    genetics is an excuse

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    Quote Originally Posted by realjo1000 View Post
    Thanks guys, I'm just trying to figure out if I should continue cycling or just go for the year-long on gear thing to build myself to superheavies. I'm 28 and I wanna compete as soon as possible (and not when I'm 40).
    Post a pic, you will get an honest assessment.

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    U wont get into the superheavies if u aint using Muscletech. JMPO

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    IMO to be a superheavies and maintain it you need good genetics. Rulh you might say its an excuse but in reality its a fact.

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