New member need help for first cycle

[kieran07]

Hey guys im a new member from australia let me tel you a bit bout myself

I'm 20 years old, 6 "2 ,192 pounds , ALL NATURAL ATM, been training for several years now but full on serious for prob about 1 year now with diet being pretty strict for about the last 9months.

My diet atm consists of

3 egg whites 1 egg + bowl of oats

2 hours later = Lean meat (either chicken, steak, kangaroo) with salad

2hours later= Lean meat (same as above) with serve of green vegetables and serve of rice

2hours later= Lean meat (same as above) with serve of green vegetables

2hours later= Lean meat (same as above) with serve of green vegetables as well as sweet potatoe

Before gym Protein shake + glutamine + creatine + 2 caffeine pills ( somedays)

After gym Protein Shake + glutamine + creatine

Dinner Lean meat (same as above) + mix of vegetables

Before bed (only some days) CASSEIN PROTEIN SHAKE


Diet is pretty much like that most days with lately a little snacks here and there


Now im very interested in trying my first cycle of WINSTROL for the summer just to get a bit more ripped and the hardened look... but after lots of research still a bit unsure as to what i should do/ what should be the right thing to do if i just want to put on a little more size but drop fat percentage even more ( currently at 12%)

Rough idea is as follows please leave comments on other ideas

6-7 weeks WINSTROL

and after reading heard a lot of joint point can be associated with WINNIE ONLY CYCLE so was thinking of the following

10-12 weeks either DECA or TEST PROP ( what ever you guys think is btter + need to know how much a day / week) leaning more towards test prop

6-7 weeks WINNIE 50ml everyday

and need advice of PCT using NOVELDEX or even if i need any PCT

MY GOAL IS TO PUT ON A LIL MORE SIZE/MASS BUT GET CUT UP MASSIVELY AND HAVE THE HARDENED LOOK...

PLEASE COMMENT AND GIVE ME IDEAS ON CYCLE AND IF ANY DIET CHANGES + any vitamins and other stuff i should take

attached are some current pics

THANKS GUYS

[stpete]

Welcome. And it looks like your doing pretty good without any juice. Why would you start now? You can add some more mass naturally. And if you really eat like you say you do, then your workouts need a little tweeking.
I'm not going to help you with the juice questions for 2 reasons.
1) You don't need any and,
2) You're too young. You could possibly damage yourself for life. Sorry man.

[kieran07]

eat like that majoirty of the time yes, but now winter is here and tend to have some snacks here n there ( no fats still but carbs)... and damage myself even if i just wanna try a cycle of winnie?? or some other cutting drug i just wanna get a bit more ripped but mainly get the hardened look in my msucles for the summer

[kieran07]

p.s im on the training program givin to me by y supplement company..

ITS CALLED ASN... not sure if its big in USA yet.. not that big here but i reakon the supplements are awesome

www.asn-nutrition.com

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CURRENTLY ON WEEK 14

n jsut curious to try a cycle of winnie or even anavar.. to look that extra bit better in summer

[kieran07]

lol ok change dat up completely

what bout an anavar cycle would be much better as its pill form

40mg a day for how many weeks??

need any PCT oand anything else with it ??

is hat betetr then winnie for a first cycle ?

[Matt]

Welcome..

[ni4ni]

welcome

[49yrsyoung]

welcome !

[xo3et]

Welcome,

no need to cycle yet bro, stick at what your doing and hang around and learn. 20 is a litte young and your be able to gain more naturally.

[Aussiebb]

Maybe you are to youung to cycle,

But i would go for test prop, maybe 300mg week for 10weeks.

Can add winny or deca to the test, but dont do winny or deca without test

[G4R]

Welcome aboard

Still too yound IMO. Just continue to read up on our site.

[kieran07]

so still too young even if i wanna try a lil anavar cycle ?? like 5-6weeks ??

[feeldapump89]

Looking ripping bro' remember keep things simple on your first cycle no need to stack this many compounds you will see great results from a basic test cycle. I had almost the same plan as you and the guys here have advised me too drop deca and keep things basic. Best of luck your gona be a beast.

[kieran07]

thanks feeladpump

so what would you recommend for my first cycle if my goal right now is just to basically lose more bf% down to bout 8% and have that hardened look... not so much worried bout gaining more size atm that comes in time

[gigabitbucket]

this is a great site for all

[feeldapump89]

thanks feeladpump

so what would you recommend for my first cycle if my goal right now is just to basically lose more bf% down to bout 8% and have that hardened look... not so much worried bout gaining more size atm that comes in time

You could look into Clenbuterol its known to decrease body fat. Do some research on it.

[C-MaN]

Welcome bud!

[kieran07]

I think i can only get my hands on clubeterol gel... atm bit unsure what it is because have researched the gel any help or recommendations on dat ?

[kieran07]

Clenbuterol gel i mean

[feeldapump89]

Clenbuterol gel i mean

The creme you rub on your balls? I hear it sucks just what ive heard tho you better off asking someone with experience. Im not all for rubbing creme on my testicles.

[kieran07]

yeh agreed i think im going to try and get my hands on some anavar for a first cycle for 6weeks just for lil more ripping and hardening...
any disagreements on that?? or any other suggestions for a first cycle that isnt to toxic at my young age?

Also with anavar does it need any PCT liek novaldex or jsut have it on hand?

[feeldapump89]

Anavar would probably be the best for the goals you are trying to reach your going to get straight cutt son! Personally tho i would say your pretty leaned out i would start packing on some mass with test than after that cycle run a cycle of anavar to shred up.

[kieran07]

yeh im going to do that after summer, try and do it naturally first by eating a alot more carbs n calories ( ill hate it though cos ill lose stomach n jsut have extra flab) lol then if not gettin mass i like ill do cycle

thanks for everything man