Experienced Bodybuilders

[aldemoro]

Why all the advanced and experienced bodybuilders always stay on cycle for 8 months or more and they change to differenet gear on cycle so the boyd doesnt build tolerance so they still get bigger last months of using it.

Hear everyone is talking about maximum 12 weeks cycle then on pct lossing half of it then going back on there is no point.

Staying longer changing to different gears always works i have seen guys in the gym which prepare for the contest which been on cycle for a year and they keep on growing.

[ninesecz]

Yes and you said it yourself.. they are competetive or pro bodybuilders.. If I was a pro BB I too would probably stay on for months maybe even years straight! But unless I am going to make a ton of money and I am sure most here would agree I am not going to risk my kidneys, liver, my life to gain an extra 10# of muscle on top of what the 12-16 week cycle will already give me

[TITANIUM]

Correct.Unless you want to be on TRT for the rest of your life.The pro's are, in a way,cheating death in some cases.Be smart and let your HPTA go baseline.Then you do it again, but wiseley....

[DEVLDOG]

Why all the advanced and experienced bodybuilders always stay on cycle for 8 months or more and they change to differenet gear on cycle so the boyd doesnt build tolerance so they still get bigger last months of using it.

Hear everyone is talking about maximum 12 weeks cycle then on pct lossing half of it then going back on there is no point.

Staying longer changing to different gears always works i have seen guys in the gym which prepare for the contest which been on cycle for a year and they keep on growing.

body doesnt build a "tolerance" and there is no receptor shutdow or saturation ,so you are correct,steroid receptors are like every other receptor in your body they die and regenerate every 28 days or whatever it is.
and this is what I personally follow and have followed for years,am I recommending to you? no. but it is how you get big and STAY big.

no matter how good your pct is,which btw is extremely hard on your body so why put it through it just to go back on??? you will lose alot of gains,just look at retired pro BB'ers and how small they get.yes they train less and dont eat as strict but they also arent on the same doses if on at all...ala kevin lavrone!!

[operationgetbig]

body doesnt build a "tolerance" and there is no receptor shutdow or saturation ,so you are correct,steroid receptors are like every other receptor in your body they die and regenerate every 28 days or whatever it is.
and this is what I personally follow and have followed for years,am I recommending to you? no. but it is how you get big and STAY big.

no matter how good your pct is,which btw is extremely hard on your body so why put it through it just to go back on??? you will lose alot of gains,just look at retired pro BB'ers and how small they get.yes they train less and dont eat as strict but they also arent on the same doses if on at all...ala kevin lavrone!!

check levronereport.com to see what kevin's up to now. and he's doin it all natural with blood test to prove it. after his pro bodybuilding career he basically stopped lifting at all for years.

[powerliftmike]

So you dont have a question you just want to convince the newbies to stay on longer and harder cycles? And your body builds up tolerances and adapts to ANYTHING. thats why they are changing up gear during the cycle to help keep this from happening as fast

[aldemoro]

No i didnt try to convince the newbies it was just a question because im an amateur myself but thats how it is there are many examples explained hear by others and in the gym what im seeing these guys the whole year. Also they taper doses up the doses slightley every 3 to 4 weeks

[glover]

So what are you saying you recommend DevilDog? I am not clear on that?

[DEVLDOG]

So what are you saying you recommend DevilDog? I am not clear on that?

Im not "recommending" anything brother,the old school of thinking used to be receptors would get saturated and shutdown after extended use, thus the reson for "cycleing" and changing up gear to hit different receptors.

well it was later discovered this isnt the case,that ALL cells in the body die of and regenerate over a certain period of time.

what I have found through personal experience and again,Im not recommending this to anyone,is that if I kept increasin dosage,I kept gaining.now obviously as you get bigger you have to train heavier and eat more,increase calories to maintain the bigger size.I always ate for the size I wanted to be not what I was. for the longest time I was stuck at 275lbs,eating,training and doseing the same way,I increased it all gained some more,increased it again and gained some more,until I was 304 which turned out to be too much weight for my joints,so I dialed it back to where im comfortable around 292.

just my personal experience and no scientific data to back it up,take it for what its worth to you and once more I do not recommend this,the sides do increase dramatically when you use high doses and it gets very expensive,esp the food, $100/day for food,tons of steak,chicken,tuna,rice and my favorite jumbo lump crab meat and maccodamian nuts,eating every 2hrs....10-12x a day,yeah,I would wake up and eat,wasnt sleeping much because of the tren so that wasnt a problem!!

[aldemoro]

Im not "recommending" anything brother,the old school of thinking used to be receptors would get saturated and shutdown after extended use, thus the reson for "cycleing" and changing up gear to hit different receptors.

well it was later discovered this isnt the case,that ALL cells in the body die of and regenerate over a certain period of time.

what I have found through personal experience and again,Im not recommending this to anyone,is that if I kept increasin dosage,I kept gaining.now obviously as you get bigger you have to train heavier and eat more,increase calories to maintain the bigger size.I always ate for the size I wanted to be not what I was. for the longest time I was stuck at 275lbs,eating,training and doseing the same way,I increased it all gained some more,increased it again and gained some more,until I was 304 which turned out to be too much weight for my joints,so I dialed it back to where im comfortable around 292.

just my personal experience and no scientific data to back it up,take it for what its worth to you and once more I do not recommend this,the sides do increase dramatically when you use high doses and it gets very expensive,esp the food, $100/day for food,tons of steak,chicken,tuna,rice and my favorite jumbo lump crab meat and maccodamian nuts,eating every 2hrs....10-12x a day,yeah,I would wake up and eat,wasnt sleeping much because of the tren so that wasnt a problem!!

thanks devildog at last i got an nice explanation

[hankdiesel]

Devil dog.....you are a beast and have taken it to a new level.