How does this look for a 5th cycle?

[Adreja]

Any feedback on the cycle would be appreciated.
The aim is to get cut and maintain or even gain some more muscle mass. Also would it be a good idea to add 100mg/w of deca to help the joints?

1-12 Test E 500mgs/w
1-4 Test Prop 150mgs mon. wed. fri
1-12 Tren A 75mgs mon. wed. fri
1-6 Winny Oral 50mgs/d
6-12 Masteron 100mgs mon. wed. fri
1-12 Arimidex .5mgs/d

PCT

13-17 Nolvadex 20mgs/d
13-17 Hcg 500iu mon. wed. fri
13-17 Arimidex .25mgs/d
13/17 Vitamin E 1000iu/d

[TITANIUM]

Bump^^^.This is another vet Q&A.Wait till one replies to this.

You will need to post your stats in the meantime.

[Dukkit]

we need stats first bro

age, weight, bf%, years training, cycle experience

[Dukkit]

and honestly... cycle is poorly planned

[Matt]

You have only been trainin g for two years and this is your fifth cycle???

We need full stats and as dukki said, its very poor...

[Adreja]

33
188cm
100kgs
15% bf
2 years serious training

[Aizen Sosuke]

I'm not an expert by any means but I have been researching a lot. Anyways this is the way I would do it. Drop the testosterone enanthate and run the propionate through the whole cycle. Think about it do you really want 900 mg/week of testosterone. I know I wouldn't. Also run the masteron the lenght of the cycle alone with the propionate and trenbolone acetate. You could shoot all 3 together everyother day. And keep it short they are all fast release esters as I'm assuming by masteron you refer to drostanolone propionate right? Anyways it would look like this
testosterone propionate 150mg/EOD
trenbolone acetate 75mg/EOD
drostanolone propionate 100mg/EOD
all 3 for 10 weeks and run the winstrol the last 4 weeks.Drop the airimidex you won't need it with masteron. As far as PCT I would run the HCG for only the first 2 weeks. I personally like clomid better than airimidex also. That's all I could think of. I actually know someone running a similar stack right now I'll let you know of anything else I could find out from him. Good luck

[hankdiesel]

2 years serious training and this is your fifth cycle. That is ridiculous! And so is the way so want to run prop.

[Aizen Sosuke]

Maybe he's been training longer than 2 years only he wasn't as serious as he is now. I want to believe that because if it's otherwise then how were you able to do 5 cycles in 2 years? It's possible but it would mean you basically started training with steroids. You say you are 33 yo and I would expect someone your age to be wiser than say 18 yo kid who just started working out and wants to juice.

[hankdiesel]

Usually people will say "off and on" but seriously for two.

[.EA.]

No offense, but you may need to get your diet in check too. This may just be me, but those aren't great stats for a fifth cycle...

[RANA]

This is not a good cycle, injecting mon, wed, fri is horrible, thats not even EOD. Aizen makes some good points regarding your cycle but I personally would do ED injections.

Have you ever used Tren?

You need to re-look at your PCT also when you are starting your PCT because you were wrong on when to start.

[Adreja]

I have been training a lot longer than 2 years but serious dedication 2 years. As for my stats I think they are not toooo bad. I started after a car accident which left me in a coma for a month and hospitalised for a full year. My weight dropped from 88kgs to 72kgs while in hospital and i started my first cycle 8 years later and at 84kgs! Thats how long it took me naturally to get from 72kgs to 84kgs.

[TITANIUM]

I knew this post had excess gear in it.And the PCT start date was wrong.That's why I left it to be answered by a Vet.

(I would rather leave NO advice, than GIVE wrong advice.)

[Adreja]

Thanks guys. How does the revised version look

1-10 Test Prop 150 eod
1-7 Tren A 75 eod
1-10 Masteron 100 eod (injectable)
6-10 Winny 50mg/d
1-10 Arimidex .25/d
1-10 Hcg 250iu 3x per week


Pct 3 days after last Test Prop shot

10 days Hcg 1000iu/d
2 weeks Nolvadex 20mg/d
3 weeks Nolvadex 10mg/d
6 weeks Vitamin E 1000/d

[TITANIUM]

Thanks guys. How does the revised version look

1-10 Test Prop 150 eod
1-7 Tren A 75 eod
1-10 Masteron 100 eod (injectable)
6-10 Winny 50mg/d
1-10 Arimidex .25/d
1-10 Hcg 250iu 3x per week


Pct 3 days after last Test Prop shot

10 days Hcg 1000iu/d
2 weeks Nolvadex 20mg/d
3 weeks Nolvadex 10mg/d
6 weeks Vitamin E 1000/d

Hcg-2 wks(500 iu's ed)
Nolva-40/40/20/20
Clomid-???????
You have nolva listed twice.Did you mean clomid?

[T-MOS]

Tren A needs to be an EVERYDAY shot, not eod

what is your previous cycle history??

what is the reason for the winny when you have mast??

Prop, TrenA, Mast is a great cycle, if you do it right, but again I would do ED shots

[hankdiesel]

Your pct is awful.

[Adreja]

Well i meant do 2 weeks of nolva at 20mg/d and then 2 weeks at 10mg/d, dont really think that more nolva than that is needed. As for mast and winny would be a good idea to run mast 1-5 and then winny 5-10 or just run mast 1-10?

[Adreja]

As for pct there are many different opinions but i think the way to go is

start 3 days after last test shot.

hcg 1000iu/d for 10 days
nolvadex 20/20/10/10
arimidex .25/.25/.25/25
vitamin e 1000/1000/1000/1000

[hankdiesel]

I would replace the arimidex with clomid. 50mg

[TITANIUM]

I would replace the arimidex with clomid. 50mg

Agreed!As far as HCG, It can be run so many different ways


T-MOS is on this,I personally would do exactly what he suggests.Period.

[RANA]

As for pct there are many different opinions but i think the way to go is
start 3 days after last test shot.

hcg 1000iu/d for 10 days
nolvadex 20/20/10/10
arimidex .25/.25/.25/25
vitamin e 1000/1000/1000/1000

You are right when you say there are "many different opinions" my questios is how did you come up with your PCT and what is your logic for using those compounds? The reason I ask is that your cycle was poorly planned and you PCT seems to follow suit, no disrepect intended.