Trenbolone Acetate(oral)

[Necrosaro]

My supplier has just recently been able to get Trenbolone Acetate(oral) on his list of gear. Having recently searching the boards about this; most I see about it is injectable not the oral form of it. Some say it can be taken everyday at 75mgs some say it can be taken 75mgs every other day. Is really 75mgs necessary and is it necessary to run it every other day or do it every day. Also is there anyone here that has done this with Test together which I am sure there has. Let me know you thoughts and wisdom on this....thanks

[powerliftmike]

is this tabs or sublingual ?

[JiGGaMaN]

seems like such a waste when you could just get methyltrienolone.

[Necrosaro]

Tabs

[ninesecz]

Yeh as Jiggaman said, Are you sure it is not just Methyltren? Never actually heard of what you are talking about! I know methyltren or whats known as Oral tren is very very very strong... Usually Esters like enanthate or Acetate are in oil and ar only used when talking about injectables... I have never heard of a Trenbolone Acetate pill or a tren E Pill. I am just wondering what he is proposing to you

[Necrosaro]

Want me to send you the information for you in the message system so I can give you can get a better look at it?

[SpanishStallion]

Tren Ace oral is useless unfortunately.

[Necrosaro]

Can I get some backup on that statement? That is saying war is useless without bringing any facts to the table!

[Necrosaro]

Necro Bump.....for more infor about doses and how frequent as stated in the first post.

[BJJ]

I did not tried myself but I read an article here in EU where it was pointed out the inefficiency of the oral tren.
If I can get the link back I'll post it for you.

[ninesecz]

I did not tried myself but I read an article here in EU where it was pointed out the inefficiency of the oral tren.
If I can get the link back I'll post it for you.

Not sure about that ! I Have read several posts from dozens of people all stating how insanely strong oral tren is and how it is in fact so strong and toxic, it only needs to be ran for a week before results are seen! I have some oral tren (methyltrienolone) and I honestly can not wait to try it out. I am only going to run it at 500mcg a day and i was told I would still yield remarkable results!

[Necrosaro]

Thanks for both sides of your stories here. I would love to see what kind of potential it has. However yes as I am reading the sides and liver would be harsh if taken too long. First time cyclers I would think should take it at a lower easier dose and up it when you feel it is best to see how you are handleing the sides.

[TITANIUM]

Not sure about that ! I Have read several posts from dozens of people all stating how insanely strong oral tren is and how it is in fact so strong and toxic, it only needs to be ran for a week before results are seen! I have some oral tren (methyltrienolone) and I honestly can not wait to try it out. I am only going to run it at 500mcg a day and i was told I would still yield remarkable results!

Nine-Be careful with the orals.

You know the deal. And I am not going to tell someone as yourself, things you already know.

Just don't wantanything "BAD" to happen to ya bro!!!

[dece870717]

Can I get some backup on that statement? That is saying war is useless without bringing any facts to the table!

If a oral version of Tren Ace existed it would be worthless because it would have no methylation and thus the liver would completely destroy it before it gets to your blood stream. I'm assuming that what you are talking about is Methyltrienolone (MT). Which is the strongest steroid out there. It binds so greatly to the androgen receptor that it is actually the benchmark for all other steroid ratings. People have also made an injectable version of Methyltrienolone, reasons for that is you can run higher doses and for longer periods of time because you don't have to worry too much about the liver damage you would get running it orally.

[Necrosaro]

Good to see some good information coming out of this!

This was some info I got from it.

PARABOLAN TABLETS(Trenbolone) is a steroid having the advantages of undergoing no adverse metabolism, not being affected by aromatase or 5alpha-reductase; of being very potent Class I steroid binding well to the androgen receptor; and having a short half life, probably no more than a day or two though I don't believe this has been measured. Fifty milligrams per day of Trenbolone is a good dosing for someone on his first cycle or someone who is as yet less than, say, 20 pounds over his natural limit; while 100 mg/day may be preferred by the more advanced user who has already gained more than this. These doses are assuming that trenbolone is the only Class I steroid being use. There really is no need to stack another -- testosterone being the only sensible exception -- but if another is stacked then the amount of trenbolone may be reduced accordingly.

[ninesecz]

Nine-Be careful with the orals.

You know the deal. And I am not going to tell someone as yourself, things you already know.

Just don't wantanything "BAD" to happen to ya bro!!!

Really appreciate that Bro!! I am honestly still telling myself I am going to run it but I am thi nking it is going to end up sitting in my box for a long long time!! Honestly Ti, If I was going to run it, the smart thing would have een to run it at 500mcg a day (4 X 125mcg doses a day) starting with wee2 of my cyckle instead of the Drol while my organs were all fresh and had no abuse on them!! I think I am a little nervous deep down inside about the compound and that is why i did not use it to kickstart! I think my common sense and logic parts of the brain are winning out over my Be as big as you can parts of the brain! I was cheap as you know so leaving it sit for a long time is not hurting my wallet! Thanks again bro!

[irish_2003]

methyltrienolone (oral tren) is pretty harsh......i know of only a couple of buddies that got it just before last month when it first came out.....they are both taking 500mcg/day.....my one buddy is fat (he's a guard on a semi-pro football team) and my other buddy is just a meathead.....they both say they like it, but prefer injectable for obvious reasons......

[TITANIUM]

Really appreciate that Bro!! I am honestly still telling myself I am going to run it but I am thi nking it is going to end up sitting in my box for a long long time!! Honestly Ti, If I was going to run it, the smart thing would have een to run it at 500mcg a day (4 X 125mcg doses a day) starting with wee2 of my cyckle instead of the Drol while my organs were all fresh and had no abuse on them!! I think I am a little nervous deep down inside about the compound and that is why i did not use it to kickstart! I think my common sense and logic parts of the brain are winning out over my Be as big as you can parts of the brain! I was cheap as you know so leaving it sit for a long time is not hurting my wallet! Thanks again bro!

No problem.
I'm thinking about tren for my next cycle.
Injectable form of course.
Run it with test e.
Either that, or another test/deca/d-bol cycle.
We'll see.

PS-Tren is the only gear that intimidates me at all.
And for good reasons.....

[Necrosaro]

I hate to be a squeaky wheel here but what would the proper doses be for a kickstart for example or added throughout the cycle if that is possible and is it every other day or everyday?

[ninesecz]

I hate to be a squeaky wheel here but what would the proper doses be for a kickstart for example or added throughout the cycle if that is possible and is it every other day or everyday?

Has a short 1/2 life just like d-bol! needs to be taken every 4 hours. I myself would never, never, never, go over 3 tabs (750mcg) a day. probably more like 2 tabs a day max!
Here is what the profiles forum says about it and if you notice what the rating is on the adrogenic scale
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (estimated):12,000+/6,000+

Yes thats right 6000 / 12000 times stronger than test!!!

Methyltrienolone (MT) is a very potent, reasonably toxic, non-aromatizing steroid. Ok. Lets go over those three points again.

First of all, MT is potent. It binds so strongly to the AR (androgen receptor) that it is often used in studies on other androgens to measure how strongly they bind. In other words, this stuff binds onto the AR receptor so strongly that it is pretty much the benchmark for that quality. If you’ve read my profile on Trenbolone Acetate (TA), you’ll note that I said TA is the most potent injectable weapon in our arsenal with regards to ability to bind to the Androgen receptor. That’s still true…because this particular compound is not in our arsenal, and it’s not injectable...it's simply the oral version of TA (i.e. it is Trenbolone which has undergone modification to become orally active, via the addition of a 17-alph-methyl group).

So why is it important that this stuff binds so tightly to the AR? Well, Androgen Receptors are found in both fat cells as well as muscle cells(8); they act on the AR in muscle cells to promote growth, and in the fat cells to affect fat burning.(9)(6) The stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose (fat)tissue(9)(5). Unfortunately, that strong binding doesn’t also automatically mean that it will elicit the strongest possible anabolic response, nor that the weakest bind will elicit a weak anabolic response. Anadrol (oxymetholone) has the weakest bind to the AR possible (too low to be measured), and it produces a profound anabolic response, for example. Dianabol is simarly low, and produces a very good anabolic response.


AR’s are found in both muscle tissue as well as adipose tissue. When a muscle’s AR is stimulated, it can induce hypertrophy. When an adipose tissue’s AR is stimulated, through various related mechanisms, fat is lost. This is a gross oversimplification. Whatever. All we need to know is that when you have a steroid that binds to the AR, it builds muscle and burns fat. And a steroid that binds very tightly to the AR will stimulate a lot of muscle synthesis and burn a lot of fat. A good example of this is Trenbolone. And since I mentioned Trenbolone, its worth further mentioning that MT is basically a 17aa (oral) version of (injectable) Trenbolone. AR binding and AR stimulation is not the only mechanism which stimulates anabolism, however. Its important to note that dbol has a very low AR binding ability and A50 has an AR binding ability which is too low to even measure! Both are very potent oral steroids, though. So while it’s important, AR binding/stimulation is not the end all & be all of anabolism, although it is an important part.

Don’t be fooled by the anabolic/androgenic ratio of this (or any steroid), either. The anabolic/androgenic ratio of MT would suggest that it produces 120(+)x the anabolic and 60(+)x androgenic effect of Testosterone (which has a score of 100 and 100 respectively). If one were able to get a bottle of this stuff, I believe it would be best used as part of a cutting cycle, stacked with some injectables (testosterone, etc…), but certainly no other orals. It’s just too toxic. Negma (the French company who brought Parabolan to the market, and then discontinued it) never pushed MT to gain approval as a commercially released item, since their original studies showed it to be highly toxic.

Methyltrienolone is, of course, a 19Nor compound (as is Trenbolone)...Thus, it will effect your sexual drive and performance in a similar way to both Tren and Nandrolone…meaning that Temporary Impotence and/or a lack of libido is highly possible (aka Tren-Dick or Deca Dick)(10). Another problem with MT is that it is a progestin, and binds shockingly well to the progesterone receptor also (PgR) (3). As we know, progestins amplify estrogenic effects of Aromatizing drugs. Although MT doesn’t aromatize, you will still need to worry about it’s ability to cause side-effects by amplifying the estrogenic issues caused by the other compounds you may be taking.

How toxic is this stuff? Well, it was never commercially marketed for use in humans, and has been relegated to Steroid-Purgatory, to be used only in studies. I’d probably rate it on around the same level as taking very high doses of halotestin or methyltestosterone. And I’d probably recommend that people keep doses of this product very low, much lower than reccomended doses typical of the other 2 compounds I just mentioned (i.e. 500-750mcgs/day…for not much longer than 3-4 weeks). I have had the good fortune to discuss this product with the owner of an Underground Lab, and he had given out several samples of this stuff to athletes he knew, and they all kept records and got regular bloodwork done. People who were in the 2mg/day range developed highly elevated liver enzymes and Jaundice (yellowing of the eyes and skin). They all recovered, and through trial and error, a 500-750mcg dose was found to be (*relatively) safe, and (*roughly) as effective as 150-225mgs of Trenbolone Acetate. For women, a possible side effect of MT is Virilization (development of male sexual characteristics), which is profound with this stuff (11), so it is entirely off limits for women to use.

You may want to take milk thistle with this compound, should you decide to try it, as well as (320mgs/day), ALA (500mgs per meal) and try some Pygeum Africanum (Permixon, the liposterolic extract of Serenoa)... stuff will all protect either your prostate or liver... in one study, it inhibited competitively the binding of Methyltrienolone to the cytosolic receptor of the rat prostate. You’ll still need to get blood work done, avoid other orals (this includes drinking, or anything else which could tax your liver), and monitor your health closely. This isn’t a drug for novices, clearly, and is probably only useful for pre-contest bodybuilders.

I’ve only seen MT available from one Underground Lab, and it came in a 50ml bottle, which was 1mg/ml, and was priced at $100. This translates to roughly 100 doses, at a reasonable cost of fifty-cents per dose. And since you would never want to run this particular drug for longer than 3-4 weeks at a time (maybe it would have use in the last few weeks before a bodybuilding competition, but not much else), you’ll get to use one bottle in 4 different cycles. That makes it no less dangerous, just reasonably cheap.

[Necrosaro]

I believe I saw some of that stuff on another website but none of the less good job in posting it all up.