for those who ran tren ace/test prop gains

[sportf190]

just looking for people with before and after pictures or stats.. who has run tren ace with test prop and have bulked.. i know tren is a recomp drug, and would like to see the typical gains.. and what you can expect to keep after PCT.. my next cycle will include tren/tprop/ and adrol or dbol at the beginning i can't find too many complete logs with these drugs used.. i plan on running 10 weeks.. so what were your results thanks..

[Vitruvian-Man]

your stats will dictate if you're ready for a tren cycle..

age, weight, bf%, height.. cycle experience?

... Tren is a crazy AAS though, the strongest out there. You can expect serious strength, and hunger gains... and it hardens up your muscles, while aiding in loosing BF. However, there are also a heep of side-affects associated with it too.

[sportf190]

I know all the side effcts cough nightsweats aggression etc.. Im 24 with 2 cycles done and im 6'0 200 at 12 percent i plan on onlu doin 40 mg ed shots for 280-300 mg a week

[marcus300]

Test and Tren is one of the best combo's going, it transform the physique. Weather your ready to do such a combo would depend on your stats and what cycle history you have.

[sportf190]

Cycle hitory is test e and dbol ans 2nd was prop/npp/var on a cutting cycle cut about 3 percent bodyfat for back in may gained a little strength my bench is 315x 4 and for dumbells i do 120x7

[Vitruvian-Man]

Cycle hitory is test e and dbol ans 2nd was prop/npp/var on a cutting cycle cut about 3 percent bodyfat for back in may gained a little strength my bench is 315x 4 and for dumbells i do 120x7

Nice. I'm doing a similar cycle in a month. (NPP / Prop / Var)

You're obviously ok with ed injections... so go for it if you'd like. The sides are going to be incomparable to any compound you've experienced so far.

I'd do the tren @ 50mg ed... 350mg ED is a low enough dosage that you won't see AS many side affects, but you'll still see good results from it.

[marcus300]

What were the gains of the 2 cycles?
Taking tren on your 3rd cycle is a little harsh IMHO, the sides can put serious and maybe you should try other compounds first before you use something so powerfull.

[sportf190]

Yea i was goin to but didnt want to push it I liked the prop cycle but after pct i was actually 5 pounds less then when i started i hated that even thoigh my bf was down lol i would like to stay at 210 around 13 percent after this cycle im going to do test prop tren ace and anadrol for 10 weeks abombs for 1-5

[sportf190]

Gains on first cycle was 15 pounds then on 2nd wad -5 after pct i stayed around 208 during the cycle though

[sportf190]

heres a couple recent pics of me which should help more..

[RANA]

With your built you will be amazed with tren/prop cycle. I would recommend going with 75mg ed of tren and 50mg of prop ed. I looks like you have your diet right all you need is a tan...lol

[sportf190]

Lol im Actually tan its just the sun kills it in those pics lol yeah i cant wait i got about 4 more weeks till i can go
back

[sportf190]

Why the lower doase of prop i thought twat had to be higher to maintain my libido

[RANA]

Why the lower doase of prop i thought twat had to be higher to maintain my libido

With 50mg of prop your libido should be fine, you will need caber with tren to keep you fully erected. Your sex drive will still be through the roof with that cycle. The reason for running your tren higher is your looking to get your gains from the tren, let the tren do all the work. You will be suprised with what tren will do for you. I started with that cycle and bumped it up to 100mg tren and 75 mg prop in week 5. I am adding mast on my next cycle.

[sportf190]

Nice bro wut were ur gains man before after on weight and bf and how much did u keep for size and strength

[RANA]

Nice bro wut were ur gains man before after on weight and bf and how much did u keep for size and strength

I started my cycle at 225lbs. 11-12% bf.
Currently I am at 217lbs 10% BF but was most important for me on this cycle is the muscle seperation. I had more of a bulker look (squared look) while on this cycle I was able to define the muscle seperation throughout my body. Vascularity is at a all time high. I finished by PCT a few weeks ago, blood work was just completed with no issues. Most people that know me think I have gotten bigger but leaned out. I lost some vascularity but that is my fault because I strayed away from my diet, I went to Las Vegas for a week and ate like shit, I just got back and now I am focused again.

[sportf190]

Nice bro thats how my 2nd cycle went i lost 5 pounds after pct but ppl kept sayin u look bigger... I hope to be 217 at 10 percent thats awesome how mnay cycles you have ?

[Vitruvian-Man]

Why the lower doase of prop i thought twat had to be higher to maintain my libido

You could keep the dosage low on the test if you like, but IMO, I'd just match the tren and run the prop @ 75mg ED. You might as well get the benefit of both compounds in the stack. 500mg of test will produce substantially better gains then 350mg, from my previous experiences. Also, prop will give you barely any (if any) water-retention (bloat)... so the tren will still be EXTREMELY effective @ 75mg ED.

Definitely get caber, and use it, as suggested previously.

[Ashop]

just looking for people with before and after pictures or stats.. who has run tren ace with test prop and have bulked.. i know tren is a recomp drug, and would like to see the typical gains.. and what you can expect to keep after PCT.. my next cycle will include tren/tprop/ and adrol or dbol at the beginning i can't find too many complete logs with these drugs used.. i plan on running 10 weeks.. so what were your results thanks..

Those two will work excellent when ran together. Diet and training will greatly effect your outcome.

[POPS]

Those two will work excellent when ran together. Diet and training will greatly effect your outcome.

have you ran them together personally A L I N ?

[sportf190]

Nice i plan on runnin them at the same im a lil nervous about the side effects of 75 mg and bc its only my 3rd cycle shouldnt i keep the doses low so i gain in future cycles

[Vitruvian-Man]

Nice i plan on runnin them at the same im a lil nervous about the side effects of 75 mg and bc its only my 3rd cycle shouldnt i keep the doses low so i gain in future cycles

Well you can keep it low... it doesn't matter 50mg ED will definitely suffice.

I dunno feel it out.. start at 50mg and then bump to 75mg ED if necessary. And don't worry, your body will be able to grow / utilize tren the same in the future! as long as you give your body time to recover / give the receptors time to re-regulate juice will always work.

[RANA]

You could keep the dosage low on the test if you like, but IMO, I'd just match the tren and run the prop @ 75mg ED. You might as well get the benefit of both compounds in the stack. 500mg of test will produce substantially better gains then 350mg, from my previous experiences. Also, prop will give you barely any (if any) water-retention (bloat)... so the tren will still be EXTREMELY effective @ 75mg ED.

Definitely get caber, and use it, as suggested previously.

The reason I kept the tren higher then the test it helped me with the sides and talking with other vets the have a lot of experience with tren. By running your test lower it can help out. I ran 700 tren and 350-525 of test. Utilizing both test and tren together synergize and can cause more sides with the tren. So lower test helps reduce that

Plus the tren is the stronger compound, may as well make it do the work and just have enough test to help the sex drive and body run.

I my next cycle I will up my test to see how the sides will effect me.

[wukillabee]

Well you can keep it low... it doesn't matter 50mg ED will definitely suffice.

I dunno feel it out.. start at 50mg and then bump to 75mg ED if necessary. And don't worry, your body will be able to grow / utilize tren the same in the future! as long as you give your body time to recover / give the receptors time to re-regulate juice will always work.

x2! Thats what ima do next cycle being my first with tren. Plan on something like this:
weeks 1-8 tren ace 50mg ed
weeks 1-10 test prop 75mg ed
weeks 1-8 prami .25mg ed
Once i see how i tolerate the tren dose im sure ill bump it up to 75mg ed, thats just the starting out plan of course. Things change once ur actually on a cycle. Just look at my current log, a lot of the dosages on certain compounds have changed due to side effects and what not.

[sportf190]

yea that is true.. also do you guys feel cycles should be kept to 10 weeks max.. with short compounds.. i feel the results plataue after about the 8th week and theres no point in staying on juice after that if your not gaining.. how do you guys feel about the time on