NPP and Test E

[Aizen Sosuke]

Everytime I see a cycle of nandrolone phenylpropionate it's stacked with test propionate and injected everyother day. Then in the profile for NPP it says it's ok to inject every fourth day. Its ester has 9 carbons just like the enanthate ,wouldn't it be more beneficial to stack it with test e and shoot every third day?

[CheddaNips]

ya every 3rd day should be fine. Im gonna run it next summer with Sust. Cant wait

[Vitruvian-Man]

Everytime I see a cycle of nandrolone phenylpropionate it's stacked with test propionate and injected everyother day. Then in the profile for NPP it says it's ok to inject every fourth day. Its ester has 9 carbons just like the enanthate ,wouldn't it be more beneficial to stack it with test e and shoot every third day?

NPP is my favorite compound.

You're correct.. you can inject it every 3rd day with your Test-E. However, the reason this isn't done more often is because of the amount of oil... think about it NPP is generally 100mg / mL.... so twice a week = 2.5mL of NPP per injection (not including the test).

Also, NPP is stacked with prop a LOT because both are used more often to cut then bulk... and a long estered test (IE test-E) is associated with more water-retention / bloat.

FINALLY, once you're on NPP.. you'll realize that ED injections are awesome. the compound starts working after 5 days.. and every muscle that you inject into feels lubricated.. and just generally feels great.

So to summarize... if you want to use NPP to bulk then stack it with test-E and inject it E3D or EOD. If in a cut.. then use Prop and do ED injections.

[Papa Smurf]

Why not just run a long ester deca along with your test e.

People that like short esters are shooting ed or eod so they want as much compound as possible in a mg to mg bases. Plus cuts down on wait time.

If I didnt have a free (almost free with co pay) supply of cyp test, I,d run all short esters.

To me, IMHO, if one compound is long ester, then I see no real reason to mix a short ester with it.
Only argument would be to run Tren A for your first go around because sides can be so bad.

Get some decaonate to run with your test e . About 500 ta 600mg ew would be good along with your test e. Make sure you have some caber or bromo on hand.

[Aizen Sosuke]

I see your point about the dozing and amount of oil injected. I actually favor short esters regardless of the hassle of everyother day injections. I guess when I'm ready I'll stack it with test prop and inject EOD. Thanks for the input guys.

[Vitruvian-Man]

I see your point about the dozing and amount of oil injected. I actually favor short esters regardless of the hassle of everyother day injections. I guess when I'm ready I'll stack it with test prop and inject EOD. Thanks for the input guys.

Well you could just inject the NPP each day...

And inject a longer version of testosterone ED as well. There is a VERY popular misconception online.. people believe that Test-E / C are BEST to be shot only every 3.5 days. However, that just isn't true.

If you're truly interested in keeping your testosterone / blood-levels as stable as possible, you should be injecting the Test-E/C each day.. with just a smaller amount of oil per injection. (this will produce less sides - acne, etc) and will hurt a less then prop. Just my 0.02

good luck

[Aizen Sosuke]

Didn't know you could do that with test e and c. But the reasons I prefer short esters is because cycles are shorter, results are seen on week 2, PCT starts right away, and less water retention. However I cannot inject everyday. I'll stick to EOD.

[Dog-Slime]

The phenyl prop ester has almost the exact same half life as regular prop. It should not be shot less than eod. Dont feel like looking up the charts but just trust me on this one guys. I have been in the argument that you could do it every 3.5 days and LOST.

[Aizen Sosuke]

It's difficult to read your posts with that avatar.

[Schmidty]

i did test e and npp eod and it has been my fav cycle so far much better then the 1st cycle i did and any other cycle. its the perfect steroid almost, deff my top 3 fav, i like it a LOT MORE THEN TREN

[gymnerd]

i did test e and npp eod and it has been my fav cycle so far much better then the 1st cycle i did and any other cycle. its the perfect steroid almost, deff my top 3 fav, i like it a LOT MORE THEN TREN

Yeah every single person that has run talkes about how much they love it I cant wait to try it.

[Vitruvian-Man]

Yeah every single person that has run talkes about how much they love it I cant wait to try it.

It's true. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't have a clue what NPP even is!

Most confuse it for DNP. lol.

But it's definitely gaining in popularity recently.

I mean it is considered one of the "newer" steroids developed lately.

[Ashop]

Everytime I see a cycle of nandrolone phenylpropionate it's stacked with test propionate and injected everyother day. Then in the profile for NPP it says it's ok to inject every fourth day. Its ester has 9 carbons just like the enanthate ,wouldn't it be more beneficial to stack it with test e and shoot every third day?

You can do it either way you have mentioned effectively.

[gymnerd]

It's true. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't have a clue what NPP even is!

Most confuse it for DNP. lol.

But it's definitely gaining in popularity recently.

I mean it is considered one of the "newer" steroids developed lately.

How was recovery for you as bad a deca?

[Vitruvian-Man]

How was recovery for you as bad a deca?

Are you kidding me? No way!

NPP clears your system in a matter of days.

I usually recover 1 week after my PCT... (opposed to like 2 - 3 months from lingering Deca in my system.)

NPP is the perfect drug for cutting, or bulking. I honestly consider it a rival to tren (but WAY less sides... and not as substantial gains as tren, but pretty close.)

[gymnerd]

Are you kidding me? No way!

NPP clears your system in a matter of days.

I usually recover 1 week after my PCT... (opposed to like 2 - 3 months from lingering Deca in my system.)

NPP is the perfect drug for cutting, or bulking. I honestly consider it a rival to tren (but WAY less sides... and not as substantial gains as tren, but pretty close.)

Sweet, What kind of dose did you run I was thinking of running 400 mg npp with 500mg-750 wk of test.

[wukillabee]

Everytime I see a cycle of nandrolone phenylpropionate it's stacked with test propionate and injected everyother day. Then in the profile for NPP it says it's ok to inject every fourth day. Its ester has 9 carbons just like the enanthate ,wouldn't it be more beneficial to stack it with test e and shoot every third day?

Yep, its just the parrots on these forums who repeat what others think they know about something. Npp can easily be shot twice a week just as test enth bro. As soon as i kill off all my deca vials, ima go the npp route for now on. I see no reason to ever have to use deca again! Npp can be shot twice a week like deca, out of ur system wayyy faster, less bloat and sides from what ive read and heards, why would anyone use deca over npp unless they dont know any better?

[wukillabee]

The phenyl prop ester has almost the exact same half life as regular prop. It should not be shot less than eod. Dont feel like looking up the charts but just trust me on this one guys. I have been in the argument that you could do it every 3.5 days and LOST.

Argument or not, real world facts beat out crap on paper anyday! I know many peeps first hand who have done npp cycles multiple times. Theyve tried it eod for 10 weeks and twice a week like u would deca for 10 weeks. Guess what, they got the same exact results and no difference in side effects bro. But we have to follow what the manual says on paper right? Fu$k that, try it eod and e3d and tell me what difference u see, i bet none!

[wukillabee]

NPP is my favorite compound.

You're correct.. you can inject it every 3rd day with your Test-E. However, the reason this isn't done more often is because of the amount of oil... think about it NPP is generally 100mg / mL.... so twice a week = 2.5mL of NPP per injection (not including the test).

Also, NPP is stacked with prop a LOT because both are used more often to cut then bulk... and a long estered test (IE test-E) is associated with more water-retention / bloat.

FINALLY, once you're on NPP.. you'll realize that ED injections are awesome. the compound starts working after 5 days.. and every muscle that you inject into feels lubricated.. and just generally feels great.

So to summarize... if you want to use NPP to bulk then stack it with test-E and inject it E3D or EOD. If in a cut.. then use Prop and do ED injections.

Totally agree here. Only time id shot npp eod is if cutting with test prop just out of convience of the amount of oil being injected per week. If using to bulk with long ester, only makes sense to shoot it e3d. Id just do 2.5ml in the hip twice a week for the npp and test enth can be shot 1-2ml anywhere else twice a week, no biggie there imo.

[.EA.]

Why not just run a long ester deca along with your test e.

Other than the fact that Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) stays in your system 'till the afterlife, there is nothing wrong with it.

[Vitruvian-Man]

Sweet, What kind of dose did you run I was thinking of running 400 mg npp with 500mg-750 wk of test.

I've run NPP a couple of times. Honestly, I hate side affects from test. So generally, when I bulk, I stack compounds, and rely on them to do more of the work. My last cycle with NPP was test = ~200 - 300mg EW, and NPP @ 750mg EW.

Yep, its just the parrots on these forums who repeat what others think they know about something. Npp can easily be shot twice a week just as test enth bro. As soon as i kill off all my deca vials, ima go the npp route for now on. I see no reason to ever have to use deca again! Npp can be shot twice a week like deca, out of ur system wayyy faster, less bloat and sides from what ive read and heards, why would anyone use deca over npp unless they dont know any better?

Glad you found the light.

So many people still think deca is the answer for bulking up...

Such a misconception.

Totally agree here. Only time id shot npp eod is if cutting with test prop just out of convience of the amount of oil being injected per week. If using to bulk with long ester, only makes sense to shoot it e3d. Id just do 2.5ml in the hip twice a week for the npp and test enth can be shot 1-2ml anywhere else twice a week, no biggie there imo.

^^ Thanks for agreeing. I like your idea. Only thing I'd do differently is rather then injecting 2.5mL of NPP + 1mL of test (while bulking) I'd cut the injection with test, and inject 1.75mL into one spot, and the remaining 1.75mL into another muscle group (because I'm a sick f*ck and like injecting... and I still try and reap the benefits of lubricated joints as much as possible!!!)

Msg me before your cycle if you need ideas for NPP, I think I've literally run it in every protocol possible. lol.

[Dog-Slime]

Argument or not, real world facts beat out crap on paper anyday! I know many peeps first hand who have done npp cycles multiple times. Theyve tried it eod for 10 weeks and twice a week like u would deca for 10 weeks. Guess what, they got the same exact results and no difference in side effects bro. But we have to follow what the manual says on paper right? Fu$k that, try it eod and e3d and tell me what difference u see, i bet none!

I know guys that shoot there long esters once a week and get great results with low sides but I still choose to shoot mine twice a week for more even blood levels.


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