Primo @ 400mg Weekly. Worth it?

[Lean1038]

For those with Primo experience, I'm researching my cycle for next year and need some advice.

I'm currently running a Test E (300mg)/Masteron E(500mg) cycle and love the effects thus far.

My goals have always been lean dry gains with size being last priority.

I've read that Primo and Masteron are very similar in effects (Hardening, body recomp, and vascularity) and want to know if Primo would be a good choice after having experience Masteron or if it would be a "Step back" so to speak.

Tren E at a low dose is always in the back of my head, but I fear the sides and shutdown it yields and that is what lead me to Masteron/Primo.

This is the cycle I'm considering:

Weeks 1 - 6: Turinabol (60mg ED)
Weeks 1 - 12: Test E (250mg weekly)
Weeks 1 - 14: Primo (400mg weekly)
Weeks 11 - 16: Winny (60mg ED)
Weeks 1 - 12: Proviron (75mg ED)

Aromasin will be used on cycle and PCT will be composed of Toremifene/Aromasin at a low dose.

Do you feel this cycle would warrant similar or better gains than Masteron or do I need to step up to Tren to beat Masteron?

Thanks in advance to all that chim in,
Lean

Stats:
Male
26 years old
5,11"
181lbs
6.8% Bodyfat

Veteran PH user, Nutritionist, and AAS experience with Test E, Masteron E, Anavar, Winny, and Proviron.

[marcus300]

You wont no if primo is any good if you dont try it to be honest, the majority dont respond at all to it and say its a complete waste of time, ive found anything under 1000mgs does nothing but at that dose and above and in conjunction with other AAS ive found it to be a good addition to many cutting cycles. Its also very expensive and IMHO you would be better off with just the test if you not going to up the dose, its a very weak compound but can give some very small lean gains when used with other AAS when you have got the dose right.

Masteron is a hardener and gives a granite appearance to the muscles, it works well when BF is low and ran along side Test but gains from masteron are very limited unless your looking for the condition it can bring. To be honest you better of just using Test alone with a good diet and cardio program.

If your BF is truely 6.8% thats a credit to you and I think you would benefit from masteron because of the effects it as when the BF is low, now if you was going to try Test and Tren and maybe a little bit of masteron thrown in that would be a very stack! but are you ready for the tren!!

[Lean1038]

You wont no if primo is any good if you dont try it to be honest, the majority dont respond at all to it and say its a complete waste of time, ive found anything under 1000mgs does nothing but at that dose and above and in conjunction with other AAS ive found it to be a good addition to many cutting cycles. Its also very expensive and IMHO you would be better off with just the test if you not going to up the dose, its a very weak compound but can give some very small lean gains when used with other AAS when you have got the dose right.

Masteron is a hardener and gives a granite appearance to the muscles, it works well when BF is low and ran along side Test but gains from masteron are very limited unless your looking for the condition it can bring. To be honest you better of just using Test alone with a good diet and cardio program.

If your BF is truely 6.8% thats a credit to you and I think you would benefit from masteron because of the effects it as when the BF is low, now if you was going to try Test and Tren and maybe a little bit of masteron thrown in that would be a very stack! but are you ready for the tren!!

Thanks for the solid advice man... It helps a lot.

I've always considered Tren and I've experienced no sides with my current cycle.

Test/Tren/Mast or Test/Tren/Proviron has always been an idea... I'm just worried about the sides.

Do you feel that even a small dose of Tren E @ 200-250mg would benefit me?

Caber Tabs would be used on cycle and Clomid/Aromasin for PCT.

Again, thanks for the help.

[marcus300]

Thanks for the solid advice man... It helps a lot.

I've always considered Tren and I've experienced no sides with my current cycle.

Test/Tren/Mast or Test/Tren/Proviron has always been an idea... I'm just worried about the sides.

Do you feel that even a small dose of Tren E @ 200-250mg would benefit me?

Caber Tabs would be used on cycle and Clomid/Aromasin for PCT.

Again, thanks for the help.

If your still getting results and achieving your goals with the cycles you are running, i would carry on and leave tren till a later date, i dont really want to steer you into it if your not ready and you still achieving your goals,, but Test and tren combo is one of the best you can get IMHO, yes a low dose Tren would be of benefit but if you have never used it before i wouldnt go for tren E, i would go with Tren A because you can stop straight away and sides will disperse.

I think for your goals you dont need something so powerfull IMHO.

[Lean1038]

If your still getting results and achieving your goals with the cycles you are running, i would carry on and leave tren till a later date, i dont really want to steer you into it if your not ready and you still achieving your goals,, but Test and tren combo is one of the best you can get IMHO, yes a low dose Tren would be of benefit but if you have never used it before i wouldnt go for tren E, i would go with Tren A because you can stop straight away and sides will disperse.

I think for your goals you dont need something so powerfull IMHO.

I understand and appreciate the honesty.

The reason I consider it is because I'm sitting on 50ml of Tren E 200. lol

Perhaps Test E(250mg)/Masteron E(400mg)/EQ(600mg) weekly instead for 16 weeks starting the Masteron @ week 4?

I really don't like compounds that aromatize much.

[marcus300]

I understand and appreciate the honesty.

The reason I consider it is because I'm sitting on 50ml of Tren E 200. lol

Perhaps Test E(250mg)/Masteron E(400mg)/EQ(600mg) weekly instead for 16 weeks starting the Masteron @ week 4?

I really don't like compounds that aromatize much.

Oh don't get me started on EQ, thats all you need lol

[Dukkit]

i agree with marcus on all accounts

id say if you do low dose of Tren though... go with 350. ive found that its a perfect dose for gains still with almost zero sides

primo as marcus said needs to be ran at a high dose for a longer period of time
at least 12 weeks @ at least 600-1000mgs a week

better off with masteron

as they say. mast/tren/test is the ultimate stack in most instances

[Hazard]

Oh don't get me started on EQ, thats all you need lol

LMAO! great advice sofar marcus

EQ is pretty worthless IMO..... High doses for a longer period of time. I ran 600mg's for 14 weeks and didn't notice anything much different from my test only cycle.

maybe try something like this

1-6 Tbol
1-14 Test e
1-14 mast e
12,13,14,15,16 var

~Haz~

[Lean1038]

Oh don't get me started on EQ, thats all you need lol

Haha! Okay, I can sense your sarcasm. lol I have 60ml of Bold 200, but it seems not too many people like it. (Waste)

i agree with marcus on all accounts

id say if you do low dose of Tren though... go with 350. ive found that its a perfect dose for gains still with almost zero sides

primo as marcus said needs to be ran at a high dose for a longer period of time
at least 12 weeks @ at least 600-1000mgs a week

better off with masteron

as they say. mast/tren/test is the ultimate stack in most instances

Thanks man, I'll keep that in mind. I DO like Masteron's effects.

LMAO! great advice sofar marcus

EQ is pretty worthless IMO..... High doses for a longer period of time. I ran 600mg's for 14 weeks and didn't notice anything much different from my test only cycle.

maybe try something like this

1-6 Tbol
1-14 Test e
1-14 mast e
12,13,14,15,16 var

~Haz~

I'm very excited to kick things off with T Bol next time. Looks great!

Thanks again guys, you've been a HUGE help.

[marcus300]

Haha! Okay, I can sense your sarcasm. lol I have 60ml of Bold 200, but it seems not too many people like it. (Waste)

If you have 60ml of this stuff i would oil your bike chain or a squeaky door, i feel the effects will be far greater than in the person.

[Lean1038]

If you have 60ml of this stuff i would oil your bike chain or a squeaky door, i feel the effects will be far greater than in the person.

Hahaha! Damn! That bad huh? Wow.

I'd rather lose the money by dumping it than waste the time/oil in a cycle.

Thanks.

[Dukkit]

screw that

sell it to some douchbag

make your money back

[Lean1038]

screw that

sell it to some douchbag

make your money back

[BG]

If you have 60ml of this stuff i would oil your bike chain or a squeaky door, i feel the effects will be far greater than in the person.

I just put 40 ml in my car, got rid of engine noise.

[Hazard]

screw that

sell it to some douchbag

make your money back

^^^^ x2

~Haz~

[tboney]

You are all a bunch of eq haters! Eq works well with my chemistry!

[tadpoleboyy]

eq all the way. Veins are sweet! ... for scaring children and women

[The Deuce]

How does EQ work with your CHEMISTRY?? J/C?? Because EQ... Doesn't work.. it does NOT build any muscle tissue nor does it assist in building any MUSCLE tissue.. as far as I know.. correct me if IM WRONG.. But the only thing I EVER noticed with EQ was a massive increase in HUNGER.. and who in the hell wants to be in massive hunger pain all day??

It's bad enough on JUST TEST ALONE !! I am always starving, no matter how many calories I consume.. LITERALLY.. I could eat 10,000 clean calories a day on EQ and still feel hungry...but in that essence I GUESS that makes it an OK compound if you wanna be able to stuff down food and do nothing BUT doing that... EATING !!

There is a compound that also does this to me, DBOL and DROL.. so... I would rather TAKE them then LOAD my body with at least an extra 5-6 ml's of oil... so therefore in my eyes .. EQ becomes useless.. and like MARCUS says.. GREAT FOR OILING BIKE CHAINS and SQUEAKY DOORS... and I believe a can of WD-40 is about 400 bucks cheaper... lol

[tadpoleboyy]

you see results at a lower dose on eq than primo. and its way cheaper. I love the hunger. Personally, eating is one of my biggest obstacles, having GERD (severe acid reflux), i lose my appetite frequently and thus stomach shrinks so when i am lucky enough not to have stomach acid bubbling up my throat, i cant fit much in my stomach. So it is a lifesaver in this aspect. Other reasons i like eq - its makes me more veiny than anything else i have tried. It have basically no side effects for me, whereas deca gives me terrible sides, and i shed when i use too heavy of androgens. So im limited.

and for loading with many cc's- eq i use is dosed at 400mg/ml. And dbol over eq? Why not take both

[almard]

I don''t like EQ as don't like primo....both are very weak.