first cycle need help to make sure i on the right path

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-20-2009, 04:59 AM

How guys this is my first post . iam 28 been training for 5 years with good results . want to step it up a bit and do my first cycle . wanted to get some good advice if my cycle looks ok or making any novice mistakes etc .

week dianabol deca
1 15 mg/d 200 mg/w
2 20 mg/d 200 mg/w
3 25 mg/d 200 mg/w
4 30 mg/d 300 mg/w
5 30 mg/d 400 mg/w
6 25 mg/d 300 mg/w
7 20 mg/d 200 mg/w
8 15 mg/d 100 mg/w
9
10

week hcg
8 7000 i.u./w
9 7000 i.u./w
10 7000 i.u./w

nol/ prov (aniti e )

5 10/25 mg/d
6 10/25 mg/d
7 10/25 mg/d
8 10/25 mg/d
9 10/25 mg/d
10 10/25 mg/d

**BJJ** · 08-20-2009, 05:03 AM

where is you pct?

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-20-2009, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ

where is you pct?

what would be the best time to start pct

**ranging1** · 08-20-2009, 05:15 AM

wtf?

that is a shit cycle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no matter what cycle this is for u its just plaina shit

heres ur cycle
weeks
1-4, dianabol 30mg daily, the dosage spread out evenly throughout the day
1-12, 500mg of testerome ethanthate or cyponaite each week, u should shoot up 250mg of it on monday, and 250mg of it on thursday

UR CYCLe IS JUST PLAIN SHIT

u SHOULD NEVER RUN DECA on its own, if u do u will have NO SEX LIFE or erections

a first cycle should always be just testerome, it works and is effective and simple, test is the base of almost all cycles

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-20-2009, 05:20 AM

but it also comes with the most hard core side effects . u prob right there to get some test in there. but i not looking for crazy gains more subttle gains . but i have all this stuff posted already

**BJJ** · 08-20-2009, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by dannyjamesdixon

what would be the best time to start pct

I'll write what I am going to do in a couple of weeks for my first cycle ( suggested and supervised by the experienced ones in here and double checked with my endocrinologist):

BULKING
Week 1-12
Test e 500 mgs EW (mon morning, thu eve)

PCT
W1 clomid 100mgs ED, nolva 40mgs ED
W2 clomid 50mgs ED, nolva 40mgs ED
W3 clomid 50mgs ED, nolva 20mgs ED
W4 clomid 50mgs ED, nolva 20mgs ED

1. If I see signs of gyno while bulking, arimidex 0,5 mg ED till they subside.
2. If my testicles shrinks while bulking, HCG 250 iu ED last 2W on cycle and 2W before PCT, plus Nolva 20 mg ED.

Good Luck!

**tat2freak** · 08-20-2009, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by dannyjamesdixon

How guys this is my first post . iam 28 been training for 5 years with good results . want to step it up a bit and do my first cycle . wanted to get some good advice if my cycle looks ok or making any novice mistakes etc .

week dianabol deca
1 15 mg/d 200 mg/w
2 20 mg/d 200 mg/w
3 25 mg/d 200 mg/w
4 30 mg/d 300 mg/w
5 30 mg/d 400 mg/w
6 25 mg/d 300 mg/w
7 20 mg/d 200 mg/w
8 15 mg/d 100 mg/w
9
10

week hcg
8 7000 i.u./w
9 7000 i.u./w
10 7000 i.u./w

nol/ prov (aniti e )

5 10/25 mg/d
6 10/25 mg/d
7 10/25 mg/d
8 10/25 mg/d
9 10/25 mg/d
10 10/25 mg/d

Where is your test bro you need test and since this is your first cycle I recommend a test only cycle you will get great gains. You do not need to stack yet and besides that's a pretty sh/ty stack ALL WAYS TEST!

**sigman roid** · 08-20-2009, 06:39 AM

Before giving out advice on cycles PLEASE GET STATS FIRST the fact he is 28 is not enough!!

**BJJ** · 08-20-2009, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

Before giving out advice on cycles PLEASE GET STATS FIRST the fact he is 28 is not enough!!

Right I apologize I just wanted to let him know what I am going to do since I cannot advise him.

**tat2freak** · 08-20-2009, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by dannyjamesdixon

but it also comes with the most hard core side effects . u prob right there to get some test in there. but i not looking for crazy gains more subttle gains . but i have all this stuff posted already

Hahahahaha no dude that sh/t cycle you made up would have a lot worse side effects then test only. Your whole (crazy gains) theory don't worry about that newbs misconstrue steroids with god-like powers all the time you have a long way to go before you get crazy gains

**Juturna** · 08-20-2009, 06:52 AM

BJJ you haven't done a cycle yet and don't even know how to do one based on YOUR thread. I'm not bashing - but please don't help people if you don't know what your doing...

OP please answer;

Age:
Height:
Weight:
BF%:
Goals:

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-20-2009, 06:52 AM

i didnt mean crazy gains in a god way . i already 210 pounds about 10 % body fat training naturally . i had just read that cyle would be mild in gains and mild in the side effects. as i said iam a novice so i obiovusly come on here for tips

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-20-2009, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Juturna

BJJ you haven't done a cycle yet and don't even know how to do one based on YOUR thread. I'm not bashing - but please don't help people if you don't know what your doing...

OP please answer;

Age: 28
Height: 6.2
Weight: 210
BF%: 10% was lower at about 9 just got back from holiday
Goals:

looking to increase size really and help with my strength . thought the cycle i had read about would be less harsh on my body but as i said iam a novice and looking for help

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-20-2009, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by Juturna

BJJ you haven't done a cycle yet and don't even know how to do one based on YOUR thread. I'm not bashing - but please don't help people if you don't know what your doing...

OP please answer;
Age: 28
Height: 6.2
Weight: 210
BF%: 10% was lower at about 9 just got back from holiday
Goals:

looking to increase size really and help with my strength . thought the cycle i had read about would be less harsh on my body but as i said iam a novice and looking for help

**Juturna** · 08-20-2009, 06:59 AM

Okay. For a first cycle it is always recommended to use a long esther Test such as Test E. I'd definitely tell you to use that over the compounds you've mentioned. You don't need an Oral Steroid since;

1. It's better to do a Test only for your first cycle
and
2. You said yourself - 'I'm not looking for crazy gains' but Test will still give you VERY good gains.

**Juturna** · 08-20-2009, 07:01 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

**BJJ** · 08-20-2009, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by Juturna

BJJ you haven't done a cycle yet and don't even know how to do one based on YOUR thread. I'm not bashing - but please don't help people if you don't know what your doing...

OP please answer;

Age:
Height:
Weight:
BF%:
Goals:

I already apologized.
In any case I never meant to give a suggestion but only show him what other members advised me to do after having made a check with my endocrinologist.
Very simple, very easy...

Regarding my previous thread, perhaps you are unable to read your own language BUT I JUST NEEDED AN ADVICE TO KNOW HOW THE F... USE A VIAL.
Am I understandable? do you want me to write it in German, French or Italian? Do you speak those languages too?! Let me guess...

Since you were not in the mood to help me out before, do me a favour just don't bother.

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-20-2009, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Juturna

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

thanks mate i will read now

**Juturna** · 08-20-2009, 07:09 AM

Good to go OP - I'd still recommend a Test E only cycle. You'll see very good gains and it's the safest way IMO to go. Any more questions and I'll check back.

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-20-2009, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Juturna

Good to go OP - I'd still recommend a Test E only cycle. You'll see very good gains and it's the safest way IMO to go. Any more questions and I'll check back.

yeah i looking into it now it seems everyone saying the same thing test e best for first cycle

. bad thing i already got all the stuff listed above so it seems a waste to not use it

**BJJ** · 08-20-2009, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by dannyjamesdixon

yeah i looking into it now it seems everyone saying the same thing test e best for first cycle

. bad thing i already got all the stuff listed above so it seems a waste to not use it

... and that's just what I wanted you to know by posting you my message.
Good Luck.

**Juturna** · 08-20-2009, 07:17 AM

I understand Danny - it sucks to think about spending money and not using it right away. But your HEALTH and GOALS depend on you listening and following advice. If you run that as your first cycle your going to hurt yourself and you WON'T reach the goals you've constructed.

My advice - Test E still. If you feel it's a waste you can run DBol with Test E for 4 weeks. No longer than 4 weeks. Or you can be smart and just keep what you've already purchased for a time when your more experienced and just run a Test like I've suggested.

**tat2freak** · 08-20-2009, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by dannyjamesdixon

i didnt mean crazy gains in a god way . i already 210 pounds about 10 % body fat training naturally . i had just read that cyle would be mild in gains and mild in the side effects. as i said iam a novice so i obiovusly come on here for tips

Understood, I just have alot of guys ask me am I gonna get HUGE and unless your a freak of nature no. I highly recommend test only cycle but as the guy above said post your stats to get detailed advice

**dannyjamesdixon** · 08-20-2009, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Juturna

I understand Danny - it sucks to think about spending money and not using it right away. But your HEALTH and GOALS depend on you listening and following advice. If you run that as your first cycle your going to hurt yourself and you WON'T reach the goals you've constructed.

My advice - Test E still. If you feel it's a waste you can run DBol with Test E for 4 weeks. No longer than 4 weeks. Or you can be smart and just keep what you've already purchased for a time when your more experienced and just run a Test like I've suggested.

yeah i think thats sound adivce mate it wasnt that expensive anyway and obiovusly i dont want a real bad experience first time around . i will put together a new cycle with pct and post and hopefully get your input back bro

**Juturna** · 08-20-2009, 07:28 AM

Good to go. I'm glad you listened Danny - it'll take you far in all aspects of life and especially in getting help with AAS.

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