Newbie here. Need some help. Thanks

[pirate4x4]

Hey guys, so i have never experimented with injectibles before. Ive tried tren extreme, finadrol, and something else in the past with okay results. Anyway, I just picked up a 10ml bottle of deca qv 200 and a bottle of andropen 275. I was told this was a good stack. I started out with 1 cc of each and planned on doing so every 4 days. Does this sound like a good idea? I really want to put on some lean muscle mass. Also, I am using 1-1/2 needles. Is that okay? What kind of gains can I expect? How long and when should I take it? Please Help….

[yucon92]

what are your stats and one bottle is not near enough

[ninesecz]

yo are going to run out way before the time you would hit a normal lenght cycle of 12 weeks! I would not inject anymore and ait until you research a li8ttle more. You should also not be stacking anything ion a first cycle. It should be a testosterone only cycle

[Alphatier]

Andropen should be shot ED or E3D for stable blood levels.

Deca is ok every 3.5 days.

However you will not have enough gear for a whole cycle(10-12 weeks), and Deca should at least be run 12 weeks.

Also, stacking 2 different compound for your first cycle isn't recommended, because if you react badly to one compound you will not know which one it is.

200mg of Deca/week IMO is waste if you're looking for mass. Same story with Andropen.

Now I have a question, why didn't you come here for help BEFORE you actually started your cycle?

Ok, what you need to do is get another bottle of Andropen and do a 12 week cycle, with the test only.

If you have only shot deca once, then I don't see a problem if you drop it right now.

Andropen shot Monday morning and Thursday evenin, 275/shot. That'll make a total of 550mg of test/week.

We usually recommend 500. If you know how to measure accurately on the syringe then you could measure .90 CC(or ml) which would equal to 247.5mg test.

Make that twice/week and voilà, you have 495mg of test/week.

However, I would suggest dropping AAS and researching a little more before starting to use Anabolics.

Good Luck

[pirate4x4]

stats are 177 lbs, 6 feet tall. Way to small. And i eat like crazy. I had a friend that seemed to know alot about this stuff and that is what he recomended. Why would it be a waste? So are you saying i should get another andro and do that monday and thursday thing, and then finish off with the deca?? or get one more of each? Im confused

[jbm]

Just my opinion bro you need to check your diet... 177lbs is underweight for your height.

[pirate4x4]

ya i know it is. But honestly, i dont look small, I actually have some noticable mass. And my diet is rediculous. I eat everything in site, Im always trying different types of strict gaining diet plans. Im just trying to beat genetics at this point

[ninesecz]

It is not smart to do more than 1 compound for your 1st cycle. If something gives you really bad side effects and you are running more than 1 compound, how do you know what is causing it? If you start with just test, and it goes great then you can add a 2nd compound on the next cycle. then if on the 2nd cycle you get side effects, you will know what is causing them. On top of it, there is really no need for someone to do more than 1 compound for their first cycle. You will get more than you could imagine off of just the test. be smart and learn slowly dont just experiment