Please help with cycle

[liftw8t]

Okay currently on a cycle 400mg test e x 12 weeks. I'm about to start week 3 now thing is they say test kicks in around week 4 right? Side effects too if i'm correct now I know I'm ESRE as War puts it and I know they are gonna kick in and really i'm just worried about Gyno which I have gotta in the past off a PH cycle 2 years back and OTC PCT and yohimburn and shit like that usually keep it down. Okay my actual question is I have nolva which if sides start I have to throw in anyways should I start it now and run rest of my cycle, I just wasnt sure because I know that this is the week when it starts to kick and dont want to hinder my gains by throwing it in there.

Please Help need to know

[peachfuzz]

I wouldnt be too worried with 400mg of test and i certainly wouldnt start the Nolva now. Just make sure it is on hand.

Do you have an AI as well?

Whats PCT look like?

[liftw8t]

I wouldnt be too worried with 400mg of test and i certainly wouldnt start the Nolva now. Just make sure it is on hand.

Do you have an AI as well?

Whats PCT look like?

Nope no AI i was told it wouldn't be worth it due to the fact its my first cycle and I need to see how my body responds. Thats why I was wondering if the nolva will effect my gaining potential

PCT

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50

[liftw8t]

come on

[Matt]

You need an ai...

[peachfuzz]

An AI should always be kept on hand and is preferred ON cycle over a SERM for treating ERSE. Nolva can reduce gains so i would not run it throughout the cycle just implement at the first sign of gyno.

Like I said tho. i doubt your going to be having issues. your pinning every 3.5 days? whats your bodyfat?

[liftw8t]

okay how long should i do the nolva for if i see gyno and yeah i pinn every Monday and Thursday morning due to work and school. bf is 8-9%
Should I follow Warmachines protocol of 40 mg 5 days then 20 mg there after till sides reduced.

[peachfuzz]

Low Bodyfat. Stable blood levels. And 400mg Of test only. Youll be fine IMO

If you do have any issues i would begin then Nolva at 40mg ED until symptoms subside. unless you implement an AI as well to lower circulating estro you will need to stay on the Nolva for the remainder of the cycle at a dose of 10-20mg.

[liftw8t]

okay thats what i was thinking drop down to 10mg ED for the rest of the cycle just wasn't sure if it will effect my gain. I don't think i'm getting a AI because I have alot of Nolva

[Bio-Active]

okay thats what i was thinking drop down to 10mg ED for the rest of the cycle just wasn't sure if it will effect my gain. I don't think i'm getting a AI because I have alot of Nolva

Its nice to have both on hand just in case. If you are opting to go with just Nolva then make sure you have extra as you will have to have it for PCT!

[TITANIUM]

Bro, always have an AI on hand.

Better to have and not need , then to need and not have.

I ran tamo at 10 mgs ed for my cycle to try to control estrogen issues.

Didn't effect gains.

Depends on the cycle and the individual.


Best.

Titanium

[liftw8t]

Its nice to have both on hand just in case. If you are opting to go with just Nolva then make sure you have extra as you will have to have it for PCT!

Yeah I have plenty made sure I stocked up on it just for incase

Bro, always have an AI on hand.

Better to have and not need , then to need and not have.

I ran tamo at 10 mgs ed for my cycle to try to control estrogen issues.

Didn't effect gains.

Depends on the cycle and the individual.


Best.

Titanium

Okay that sounds like a plan but freaking PCT Extraordinare said an AI would be a waste on first cycle and I was told to see how body would respond and that AI wont reduce or cure sides but will just keep them from progressing so I took that and ran with it and put all my faith in SERM but if you say it was then that works. What was your cycle and how much did you gain

[peachfuzz]

as stated already an AI is better for ON cycle. a SERM will work but a SERM doesnt do anything to reduce estro, the culprit. thats where an AI comes in.

i would still have one on hand as well

[Bio-Active]

as stated already an AI is better for ON cycle. a SERM will work but a SERM doesnt do anything to reduce estro, the culprit. thats where an AI comes in.

i would still have one on hand as well

Agreed

[TITANIUM]

Yeah I have plenty made sure I stocked up on it just for incase


Okay that sounds like a plan but freaking PCT Extraordinare said an AI would be a waste on first cycle and I was told to see how body would respond and that AI wont reduce or cure sides but will just keep them from progressing so I took that and ran with it and put all my faith in SERM but if you say it was then that works. What was your cycle and how much did you gain

The AI is a security measure, that's all.

Letro is even stronger.

My cycle was as follows(last one)


Test E 500 mgs wk X 12 wks

Deca 400 mgs for 11 wks.

D-bol for 4 wks.(40 mgs day.


There are some excellent stickys on gyno and gyno reversal.

A must read.

Titanium

[liftw8t]

The AI is a security measure, that's all.

Letro is even stronger.

My cycle was as follows(last one)


Test E 500 mgs wk X 12 wks

Deca 400 mgs for 11 wks.

D-bol for 4 wks.(40 mgs day.


There are some excellent stickys on gyno and gyno reversal.

A must read.

Titanium

Yeah thats what I was kinda going for i noticed 40mg for 5 days was stated in there and 20mg to 10mg for rest of cycle

[liftw8t]

Low Bodyfat. Stable blood levels. And 400mg Of test only. Youll be fine IMO

If you do have any issues i would begin then Nolva at 40mg ED until symptoms subside. unless you implement an AI as well to lower circulating estro you will need to stay on the Nolva for the remainder of the cycle at a dose of 10-20mg.

Now with gyno coming up and say I did use the 40 ED until subside its fine to start an AI the next day and no more nolva use. Also best choice for the AI would be a-dex correct?