Deca vs Test e

[ShadetreeJones]

Mg for mg which compound is considered a better muscle builder? My friend and I are having a discussion on the subject. This isn't a thread for everyone to tell me how to cycle, this is purely a question about the 2 compounds.

[gymnerd]

I am curious as well.

[c-Z]

Both are two completely different compounds......

personally it all varies on the persons diet for best results..

But the main thing to think of is.... wdeca shouldn't be ran alone... it should have some sort of test with it as well whether it be Test E/C, prop....... So it is usually more then just a deca cycle... where as test e you can run alone an see good gains.

[ninesecz]

Tht nis like asking which is more powerful Gasoline or Nitrous Oxide... One compliments the other... same thing with Deca.. it works Great.. when Stacked testosterone.. by itself mit is horrible and will give you the limpest noodle you have ever seen!

[c-Z]

exactly.... thats what i was trying to get at nine... but maybe it didnt come out right. hahaha

[ShadetreeJones]

Listen, I know all the things people are thinking.

A. Deca should not be run alone.
b. It depends on the person's genetics, diet, lifting philosophy etc.
c. Different people will have different results.

My question is, if a person was cloned and each person lifted the same, ate the same, etc. the only difference being one was given 250 mgs of test e and the clone was given 250 mgs of deca, in most informed people's opinions which person would experience the greater muscle/strength growth?

Thank you.

[c-Z]

IDK...... I am not stupid enough to run deca alone... therefore idk how well it will work.....

I like my penis working.

[ShadetreeJones]

IDK...... I am not stupid enough to run deca alone... therefore idk how well it will work.....

I like my penis working.

Dude are you serious? I realize Deca can and will shut you down. I think most on this board understand that and wouldn't dare run it without Test.

The question isn't whether or not you should run test concurrently with Deca, it's which compound is considered the stronger compound/muscle builder.

[gymnerd]

I have heard most people say Deca is stronger than test .

[c-Z]

You obviously don't understand that we here are not fools... so how are we to judge how one compound will work vs another... when one of them is ran with the other?

Its a stupid F*cking question.

Deca should be ran with test... But is test better at building muscle?

I cant even think of something to compare this to because it is so damn stupid.

[c-Z]

I have heard most people say Deca is stronger than test .

Stronger at shutting your penis down.... Yes.

[gymnerd]

Dude are you serious? I realize Deca can and will shut you down. I think most on this board understand that and wouldn't dare run it without Test.

The question isn't whether or not you should run test concurrently with Deca, it's which compound is considered the stronger compound/muscle builder.

I am glad someone understands.

[gymnerd]

Stronger at shutting your penis down.... Yes.

Have YOU ever run Deca?

[c-Z]

No i have not. Decas detection time is far to long for the career im trying to pursue. and everyone i talk to who runs it prefers tren over deca. deca is to much bloat they say.

[Nooomoto]

Use both at the same time. You can't evenly compare them to eachother as they do different things. As far as bloat off of deca...I didn't get any. The only thing that ever got me bloated was sust. Deca is great if you're going to be lifting really heavy (powerlifting), makes your joints feel oh-so-good.

[gymnerd]

No i have not. Decas detection time is far to long for the career im trying to pursue. and everyone i talk to who runs it prefers tren over deca. deca is to much bloat they say.

So why bash the substance if you have no personal experiance to add? For all you know its all B.S..

[ShadetreeJones]

You obviously don't understand that we here are not fools... so how are we to judge how one compound will work vs another... when one of them is ran with the other?

Its a stupid F*cking question.

Deca should be ran with test... But is test better at building muscle?

I cant even think of something to compare this to because it is so damn stupid.

Bro, I wasn't trying to be a dick but I thought I had addressed the notion that Deca should not be run alone TWICE yet you still brought it up again. I thought maybe you were slow or something.

[c-Z]

We have a no flaming policy here bro.. And no i am not slow.... but your question is strictly stupid i am sorry....

and i can bash it because several guys around me whos jobs dont care about that shit have run it..... Personally.... it doesn't ****ing matter.. because.... test and deca should be ran together.

we are going to get some newb on here seeing that someone says deca is better.. and a week later the newb is going to come back asking why his pencil isnt working........ thats the problem i see with this post.

and to answer your question... yes i think 19nor are stronger then test itself.

[gymnerd]

I can honestly say I am on several boards and this site gives the worst advice period. This board NEEDS vets with experiance this is just stupid IMO/. Jigga, Mad Matt, DSM plus a bunch of other worthy vets here.

[brad1986]

wow i cant belive this post. The advice you two idiots have gotten on here is good advice and its true. HOw could one answer a question like that. That fact that your asking it makes you sound like you need to do more research before jumping on this forum and wasting everybodys time

[ninesecz]

I can honestly say I am on several boards and this site gives the worst advice period. This board NEEDS vets with experiance this is just stupid IMO/. Jigga, Mad Matt, DSM plus a bunch of other worthy vets here.

If you do not like this board then go somewhere else!! I have been a member on several other boards and i disagree i think 99% of the people on those other boards could not run a decent cycle if they had LLewellyn there helping them!


Test Is a Better Base

Deca Will give greater Strength Gains.... IMO

[ShadetreeJones]

wow i cant belive this post. The advice you two idiots have gotten on here is good advice and its true. HOw could one answer a question like that. That fact that your asking it makes you sound like you need to do more research before jumping on this forum and wasting everybodys time

You're being serious also aren't you?? Unfreakingbelievable. In the original thread I wasn't asking advice, I was posing a question.


I had been having a discussion with another weightlifting friend of mine, we disagreed so I thought I would ask this forum.

Let me state again: I do understand test should be a base for virtually any cycle someone wants to run. I was not asking advice, I was asking which compound was stronger: Testosterone enanthate or Deca Durabolin.

Kind of like which compound is stronger Dianabol or Anadrol or which compound is stronger Tren or Halo? I just choose to compare Test e and Deca. Are we now clear?

[c-Z]

I can honestly say I am on several boards and this site gives the worst advice period. This board NEEDS vets with experiance this is just stupid IMO/. Jigga, Mad Matt, DSM plus a bunch of other worthy vets here.

Whats the worst advice. This is an opinionated answer... its not like we are comparing a 2010 corvette to a honda. which is faster stock?

[c-Z]

You're being serious also aren't you?? Unfreakingbelievable. In the original thread I wasn't asking advice, I was posing a question.


I had been having a discussion with another weightlifting friend of mine, we disagreed so I thought I would ask this forum.

Let me state again: I do understand test should be a base for virtually any cycle someone wants to run. I was not asking advice, I was asking which compound was stronger: Testosterone enanthate or Deca Durabolin.

Kind of like which compound is stronger Dianabol or Anadrol or which compound is stronger Tren or Halo? I just choose to compare Test e and Deca. Are we now clear?

Dbol and drol are both similiar... Comparing apple to apples....
Deca and test... are not. your comparing apples to oranges...

how about... test prop vs test e... That would be more logical IMO......

It all comes down to personal experience. how your body reacts to the substance.......

Go look at the drol vs dbol threads.. half say dbol is better. the other half says drol is better... but because you think dbol is better the people who think drol are better are idiots? no.....

[c-Z]

I can honestly say I am on several boards and this site gives the worst advice period. This board NEEDS vets with experiance this is just stupid IMO/. Jigga, Mad Matt, DSM plus a bunch of other worthy vets here.

DSM will teach you how to deepthroat a monster cock good bro......

[wukillabee]

Listen, I know all the things people are thinking.

A. Deca should not be run alone.
b. It depends on the person's genetics, diet, lifting philosophy etc.
c. Different people will have different results.

My question is, if a person was cloned and each person lifted the same, ate the same, etc. the only difference being one was given 250 mgs of test e and the clone was given 250 mgs of deca, in most informed people's opinions which person would experience the greater muscle/strength growth?

Thank you.

Omg, test is your answer, case closed!

[gymnerd]

DSM will teach you how to deepthroat a monster cock good bro......

What can you teach me?

[gymnerd]

Whats the worst advice. This is an opinionated answer... its not like we are comparing a 2010 corvette to a honda. which is faster stock?

The worst advice is people paroting advice they heard off the Internet.

[c-Z]

I taught you what i thought here....

Its a stupid question. Lets compare a 500hp car... and a 150hp car...? Does it make sense? Which is faster? Two completely different things.. like i said test e and prop would be more logical.. Smart ass.

[c-Z]

The worst advice is people paroting advice they heard off the Internet.

My advice is from personal experience.. And what I have seen.... Many of my friends are users. because I haven't ran deca.. Doesn't mean shit. I have seen its affects.

BTW its not really paroting when the advice is coming from another user on the internet....

BRO IF YOU DONT LIKE IT HERE! then gtfo... plain and simple..... If your not happy with the members here etc... I'm sure admin wouldnt have a problem removing you...

[gymnerd]

If you do not like this board then go somewhere else!! I have been a member on several other boards and i disagree i think 99% of the people on those other boards could not run a decent cycle if they had LLewellyn there helping them!


Test Is a Better Base

Deca Will give greater Strength Gains.... IMO

You know nothing. This board has ALOT to learn.

[c-Z]

You know nothing. This board has ALOT to learn.

Dude i seem to look at your posts and see nothing... its all arguments, calling people trolls, and more arguments... You are useless to life. I'll be sure to let admin know. Thank you.

[gymnerd]

My advice is from personal experience.. And what I have seen.... Many of my friends are users. because I haven't ran deca.. Doesn't mean shit. I have seen its affects.

BTW its not really paroting when the advice is coming from another user on the internet....

BRO IF YOU DONT LIKE IT HERE! then gtfo... plain and simple..... If your not happy with the members here etc... I'm sure admin wouldnt have a problem removing you...

Its not that I don't like it here its just that alot of terrible advice is given out by people with 0 experience. This site needs more GOOD vets period like it or not its a fact.

[c-Z]

Its not that I don't like it here its just that alot of terrible advice is given out by people with 0 experience. This site needs more GOOD vets period like it or not its a fact.

because you have all the answers? And know it all? ninesecz has given more input then i have ever seen you give... soo... i dont see how disrespecting him saying he needs to learn more.... is cool...

Everyone can learn more.. We aren't all professionals here. Sure we would like to be. BUT yes we can always learn more.

This post was completely useless. For the simple fact deca wouldn't be ran alone... and a test would be ran with it... but yeah i'm slow because i mentioned that for a third time. but that is the truth. So why try to compare it.

[gymnerd]

Dude i seem to look at your posts and see nothing... its all arguments, calling people trolls, and more arguments... You are useless to life. I'll be sure to let admin know. Thank you.

You ARE the Biggest point I am trying to make here. You know nothing neither does Nine and you are handing out advice to newbs? Admin. can do alot better that's a fact.

[beachboygemini]

Hey gym nerd, are you having a bad day? I am as well. Please do not bash the forum in which you participate. Thank You

[manwitplans]

Well I think the question is good.
But it's really hard to answer (because yes test should always follow deca).

But nonetheless I hope someone can answer this straight forward without the mumbojumbo.
Say you don't care about your dick and decide to run deca alone, or test alone.

Which would yield better gains at 1g / week.

Have a good one

[gymnerd]

Hey gym nerd, are you having a bad day? I am as well. Please do not bash the forum in which you participate. Thank You

I am not bashing anything in fact I am trying to help. I see alot of advice given by people who have no experience. I have no problem with Internet knowledge but this is wrong. Believe what you will this site needs better guidance this is absurd.

[c-Z]

You ARE the Biggest point I am trying to make here. You know nothing neither does Nine and you are handing out advice to newbs? Admin. can do alot better that's a fact.

let me share something with you buddy.... For someone who joined in jan of this year.... u sure jumped on a cycle pretty quick. with no experience. My friend you have no f*CKGIN room to talk. And should not be disrespecting the mod team here.

Let me recap for you... just incase your stupid ass forgot....

Well this is what I am thinking of running for my first cycle.

WK1-Test E 500mg wk, Dbol 30mg day
Wk2-3-Test E 500mg wk, Dbol 40mg day
Wk4 Test E 500mg wk,Dbol 50mg day
Wk5-12 Test E 500mg wk
Wk13off
Wk14-15 PCT Clomid50mg day/Nolva40mg day
Wk16-17 PCT Clomid50mg day/Nolva20mg day

* Liquidex @ .5mg eod Wk 1-13

So hows that look to the vets on the board?

Nice dose on the dbol fool........

Well, I am thinking about running my first cycle in a couple months or so and looking for a bit of advice. I am 35, 6'3, 240lbs,BF? I could loose a few. Training off and on for about 5 years training steady for the last year1/2 after a couple years off. Right now I am getting my diet together to trim up and crank up the cardio a bit. After that I want to run a cycle about 10weeks long or so I know 500mg week of test e is a popular first cycle. What I am wondering is it at all a good idea to run a lower dose of test and a low dose of deca for a first cycle or will this be too much? Right now I am working through some tendonitis and stuff that I cannot seem to get rid of completetly I have been treating it and it is getting better. I have been told that deca is great for the joints and that is why I would like to throw that in there. I would really hate to have to take a month or so off from training. What do you guys think?

Your fat ass shouldn't be running a cycle. Over 15% and you have a better chance at sides.

What is a source check? Asking where to buy? I don't want to break any rules or anything.

LMAO is all i can say to that

So what are you telling me I have to keep my heroin needles seperate from my steroid needles now geez. This is starting to sound like alot of work.

Wtf do you think this is all going to be easy?

Ok, so I just ordered some Test enth 300mg/ml from what I believe to be a good source we will see. They didn't have 250mg/ml test e, so my question is I figured that if I draw only 250mg a shot twice a week I will get 12 weeks out of 20 ml instead of 10 sound right? How much exactly would I need to draw for 250mg? Or am I better off just running 600mg a week instead? I apologize if this is overly detail oriented but I do believe in the 5p's.

cant do basic math?

I am planing out my cycle 500mg of test E a week with a dbol kick, maybe. Is it really neaded to run Adex or similar during cycle? Its pricey.

LOL to cheap to protect your fat ass from gyno... Cool.

[workoutfreak078]

Well I think the question is good.
But it's really hard to answer (because yes test should always follow deca).

But nonetheless I hope someone can answer this straight forward without the mumbojumbo.
Say you don't care about your dick and decide to run deca alone, or test alone.

Which would yield better gains at 1g / week.

Have a good one

1g of Deca? Yikes.

Everyone arguing on this thread already said they think 19nor is more potent, so I think the question was answered so far.