New Cycle (Need vets Opinion)

[beasted82]

Hey I am 23 here are my stats
5'9
208 pounds
14% BF

I have been lifting for awhile since around 16 but got very serious over the last year. in the last year iv gone from 184 to 194.

The only thing iv tried steroid wise was mild but put 14 pounds of solid mass on me and iv kept it.
10 wks EQ st only 1 cc per week (200mg)
4 weeks DBOL 50 mg
(arimidex on hand incase)

Right now im taking 50mg winstrol oral to harden up a bit.

Heres what i have a question with i want to get a little bigger but not insanely big. maybe put on 10 pounds of lean mass at most. I want to get my bodyfat to around 8-10% to start. I figure thats a realistic goal right now . . .while maintaing my mass and strength. So i know i need to continue eating clean nd healthy but cut my daily caloric intake and carbs. as well as do 30-60 min cardio 5 days a week with my weight training. ( Does that sound about right?)

Whats cycle would you recommend. Primobolan Masteron and Anavar will be very hard for me to get so there a big maybe.
I have access:
Sustanon
Most Tests
EQ
DBOL
Winstrol (oral or injectable)
Clen
Deca
For PCT Arimidex, Nolvadex, Clomid, HCG.
Any advice any of you vets have or anyone with more anabolic experience than I would be greatly apreciated.

*Also im fairly lean and have nicely developed pecs but the body fat i have seems to all be around my nipple area is there something i can do about it like take Letro or Nolva for this? )

[*El Diablo*]

Start PCT, your still young. What is your diet like?

[beasted82]

Im not taking the DBOL those are just the roids i have access to at the moment. Im just not sure what kind of cycle to construct to attain my goals.\

Diet is pretty clean around 2500-3000 calories a day gonna drop it to 1800-2000 a day.
Alot of protein 200 grams sometimes more. Low sugar and fat moderate to high carbs gonna cut them down significantly.
Any diet advice would be greatly appreciated as well.
I eat alot of chicken lean pork whey protien lean meats cream of wheat egg whites and when it comes to carbs organic granola almonds and whole wheat products (brown rice pasta) things of that nature.

[c-Z]

I don't see the need for any vet to place a response here... You clearly need to research more bro.

10 wks EQ st only 1 cc per week (200mg)
4 weeks DBOL 50 mg
(arimidex on hand incase)

Right now im taking 50mg winstrol oral to harden up a bit.

Wheres the test?

[beasted82]

I don't see the need for any vet to place a response here... You clearly need to research more bro.

10 wks EQ st only 1 cc per week (200mg)
4 weeks DBOL 50 mg
(arimidex on hand incase)

Right now im taking 50mg winstrol oral to harden up a bit.

Wheres the test?

I didnt take any. I did that small cycle about 2+ mnths ago and gained 14 quality pounds. Now im looking for help to construct a good cycle. I know its not the best cycle and iv done alot of research but one thing I do KNOW . . . . .. .. . .Is that I KNOW Nothing

I just noticed from the 4 wks of dbol and the 10 wks for 200mg EQ I responded very well so now i figure its time to go for the real thing. A full cycle with Sufficient doses.

[c-Z]

Hey I am 23 here are my stats
5'9
208 pounds
14% BF

I have been lifting for awhile since around 16 but got very serious over the last year. in the last year iv gone from 184 to 194.

The only thing iv tried steroid wise was mild but put 14 pounds of solid mass on me and iv kept it.
10 wks EQ st only 1 cc per week (200mg)
4 weeks DBOL 50 mg
(arimidex on hand incase)

Right now im taking 50mg winstrol oral to harden up a bit.

Heres what i have a question with i want to get a little bigger but not insanely big. maybe put on 10 pounds of lean mass at most. I want to get my bodyfat to around 8-10% to start. I figure thats a realistic goal right now . . .while maintaing my mass and strength. So i know i need to continue eating clean nd healthy but cut my daily caloric intake and carbs. as well as do 30-60 min cardio 5 days a week with my weight training. ( Does that sound about right?)

Whats cycle would you recommend. Primobolan Masteron and Anavar will be very hard for me to get so there a big maybe.
I have access:
Sustanon
Most Tests
EQ
DBOL
Winstrol (oral or injectable)
Clen
Deca
For PCT Arimidex, Nolvadex, Clomid, HCG.
Any advice any of you vets have or anyone with more anabolic experience than I would be greatly apreciated.

*Also im fairly lean and have nicely developed pecs but the body fat i have seems to all be around my nipple area is there something i can do about it like take Letro or Nolva for this? )

Thats what you said you have run and right now your running winstrol.... Theres no test there.

[beasted82]

Thats what you said you have run and right now your running winstrol.... Theres no test there.

Yeah not test. Im thinking of running sust or TEST E with this new cycle but im not sure which.

[brad1986]

YOU should run a test with any cycle you do. Esspecially as a newbie but personally ill be running test with every cycle! Plus you said you did that 2 months ago. Have you checked your blood levels? @months may or may not be enough "off" time

[beasted82]

No I havent checked i would imagine there out the dbol is so in and out and the EQ was only 200 mg a week 10 weeks

[RANA]

Yeah not test. Im thinking of running sust or TEST E with this new cycle but im not sure which.

With your previous cycles you can really screw yourself up without including Test in your cycle. Also what about PCT?

[D7M]

Read everything in these links, and get back to us with questions:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=368656

[marcus300]

I dont think your being totally honest with us, you write your on winny then next you didnt take it,
You asked for advice in this thread http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=396814 which you didnt take, something doesnt ring true with your post to be honest...

First it looks like you ask for advice and take you dont take it or use it!! dangerous!!

Do you know what can happen to you if you cycle to young?

Have you done a PCT?

Why dont you tell us the truth what you have done and what your on and at what age??

[beasted82]

i turned 23 on the 20th of aug. and as far as the cycle thats what i thought about doing but i didnt jump into anything except for the oral winstrol. I wasnt sure how big i would get from running test\
and i didnt run any pct. I feel like im experimenting.
im thinking of still running the 10 weeks test and 10 wks EQ but im not sure if thats the route to go.

[c-Z]

i turned 23 on the 20th of aug. and as far as the cycle thats what i thought about doing but i didnt jump into anything except for the oral winstrol. I wasnt sure how big i would get from running test

It says you ran 10 week eq and 4 weeks dbol

[beasted82]

It says you ran 10 week eq and 4 weeks dbol

Sorry guys ill clarify, I see my words seem like nonsensical ramblings .

Over 2 months ago i tried my hand at 4 weeks of dbol (50 mg) and 10 weeks EQ 200 mg. I gained 14 pounds. After further research i see now that i did not make the most out that cycle. I suppose you could say it was an experiment to see how id react, it was my first "cycle"

Now i started doing winstrol oral 50 mg a day ( with 900 mg milk thistle a day) 2 weeks ago to harden up and dry out a bit. With the goals i have set out now i see i want to drop BF% while maintaing mass and strenth and putting some quality mass on but im not just trying to slab on the beef. From all the reading and research iv done i see how important it is to include TEST and have PCT Ready as well as something on hand such as arimidex incase ( which i still have 20 of) so i was just wanting help in constructing the optimum cycle and pct protocol. I apologize for any confusion based on discrepancies in my writings guys.

These were just the things i currently have access to at the moment to construct this cycle.

Sustanon
Most Tests
EQ
DBOL
Winstrol (oral or injectable)
Clen
Deca
For PCT Arimidex, Nolvadex, Clomid, HCG.

[c-Z]

Yeah marcus... Im having a hard time... It says "I didnt take any. I did that small cycle about 2+ mnths ago and gained 14 quality pounds. ". But yet how did you run a cycle if you didn't take any? ::scratches head:: Makes no sense

[marcus300]

I am still confused why you ask for advice and run a different cycle what you was planning and you didnt take any of the advice in!! strange!

a couple of post agao you said you didnt start the winny, now you have!

anyway, do you understand the dangers of starting a cycle at 22yrs?
Do you understand the dangers of not running a PCT?
Theres experiementing and there ignoring advice!

[beasted82]

I am still confused why you ask for advice and run a different cycle what you was planning and you didnt take any of the advice in!! strange!

a couple of post agao you said you didnt start the winny, now you have!

anyway, do you understand the dangers of starting a cycle at 22yrs?
Do you understand the dangers of not running a PCT?
Theres experiementing and there ignoring advice!

Indeed well as per the response i have gotten on this thread i see the best thing to do will be to do alot more research before i ask any more questions or actually start a cycle.

[marcus300]

Stop all compounds, do a PCT and stop cycling until everything is back to normal (if your lucky) and start reading the stickies at the top of the page, take in the advice form the members and DONT do any of your own experiments again, i think thats the best things for you at this moment it time and one last thing be truthful with us, you always get caught out.

[beasted82]

Stop all compounds, do a PCT and stop cycling until everything is back to normal (if your lucky) and start reading the stickies at the top of the page, take in the advice form the members and DONT do any of your own experiments again, i think thats the best things for you at this moment it time and one last thing be truthful with us, you always get caught out.

Indeed i wouldn't lie i came for advice and know it would in no way benefit me to do so . . .. but i read my own posts on this thread and the last and see how scatter brained they are. So I see how reading my ramblings would appear as such. Im just not %100 sure what i want and im sure i should figure that out before i begin anything. Its a new world to me and im excited about it. Ill take the advice and read the stickies. Thanks for the input man.

[marcus300]

Indeed i wouldn't lie i came for advice and know it would in no way benefit me to do so . . .. but i read my own posts on this thread and the last and see how scatter brained they are. So I see how reading my ramblings would appear as such. Im just not %100 sure what i want and im sure i should figure that out before i begin anything. Its a new world to me and im excited about it. Ill take the advice and read the stickies. Thanks for the input man.

Please read up and do a pct, i think your a bit off this world yet but if in future you write a thread try and explain your background better and what your goals are and follow the advice, there is no rush to cycle and you need your diet and training in order first and 99% of people think they have but really they havent, so stop,look and listen. All the best

[c-Z]

Bro as marcus stated.... Stop w.e you are running and jump on PCT......

Spend some time on here... And learn. Then think twice in say as year when you understand the way it all works.