sust 250 and winstrol, first cycle?

[...aydn...]

objectives- utilise my first cycle in the best way possible. make lean gains without excess water retention. gain 5 to 7 kg of quality muscle mass.


proposal for first cycle= sust 250, winstrol, with nolva in hand for pct if nipples get sensitive, and clomid???

winny luckily does'nt aromatise into estrogen and cause water retention like Dbol and deca, that is why i would like to replace a test and deca cycle with a test and winny cycle..


sourcing my kryptonite=was thinking of doing a trip to thailand to find and buy and send it back in the mail. if anyone knows the best spots to buy from, i would be interested in seeing your response, and also let me know what you think of my first cycle plan.
and please no scammers pm me with scam sites..

cheers let me know what you think?

and how i should be running?

[D7M]

You'd do well from a simple test only cycle for your first run.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[Bsg243]

STATS??? (First cycle doesn't need to be stack)

[theboss]

Test E... 500mg/week for 12 weeks.

PCT

DONE.

[Knockout_Power]

Test E... 500mg/week for 12 weeks.

PCT

DONE.

Bingo, keep it simple, you dont know if you will react to one of the compounds so keep them minimal. Being your first cycle, you will see incredible gains with proper diet

[hankdiesel]

I don't see much of a cycle plan here. No dosages are listed or durations.

[...aydn...]

i was meant to say at the end of the msg how much should i be running...

was thinking sustenon because it has all 3 tests.

and why not do winstrol as it does'nt aromatise?

anyways my plan will be something along the lines of this

week1- 250mgs sust, 5mg winny(ed).
week2- 250mgs sust, 5mg winny(ed)
week3- 500mgs sust,10mg winny(ed)
week4- 500mgs sust,10mg winny(ed)
week5- 500mgs sust,10mg winny(ed)
week6- 500mgs sust,10mg winny(ed)
week7- 250mgs sust, 5mg winny(ed)
week8- 250mgs sust, 5mg winny(ed)


and should i add clomid in when???? will i need nolva????

[D7M]

^there's no need to taper the sust doses. 500mg is fine throughout.

did you even read the link I posted for you?

and 5-10mg of winny? pffft. that's a woman's dose, man.

and why would you put spam at the end of your post?!

geez, man edit that out of there.

[...aydn...]

lol soz i did'nt even know it was there.. i must have a virus or someshit. ill check out ur post..
i wanna run just an average dose of winny so my kidneys dont **** up. i will get some milk thistle etc to combat sore kidneys yea?

[...aydn...]

so how much winny will i need?

[xavier_888888]

Just like the guys said. Keep it simple for a first cycle.

Sust 500/wk for 12 wks shot EOD

[D7M]

read the link, my friend.

you really don't need any winny for your first run.

just a simple test cycle will work great.

[...aydn...]

ok thanks guys. 12 weeks should give me a shit load of time to grow. what p.c.t would you recomend since im not taking the dbol? i did read that thread.. good info on p.c.t's jst not sure what ill need with just the sust. cheers

[...aydn...]

and also was wondering should i rotate my injection sites around like one in left delt, right delt,left glute,right glute,left quad, right quad etc?

[...aydn...]

i hope that does'nt sound dumb. just wanna be sure, cos i wanna nail this to the T

[xavier_888888]

Yes rotate the inj site.

[D7M]

pct doesn't change dramatically with different compounds. shut down is shut down.

read the pct stickies.

yes, it's a good idea to rotate inj sites.

[xavier_888888]

Save the winny for the next cycle. Coz we all know you will be excited for the second cycle right after you see your result. LOL

[hankdiesel]

If you are dead set on running the winny, run it the last two weeks of the sust and two weeks after then start pct. It looks like you're taking it orally. 50mg should be the minimum per day.

[trulbfan3]

bro get familiar w/ the search engines and do some homework