Advice on How to give advice.....

[Hazard]

I know this will probably sink to the bottomless Q&A pit..... But i'll post it anyways.

If you are going to give advice to anyone on this website...... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE know what you are talking about. If you aren't 100% sure.... fine.... just state that.

I have seen quite a lot of new guys come in here looking for cycle advice and they have been getting responses from people that had the same questions a few days earlier. It's not that I don't want you to help..... a new guy that comes in looking for cycle advice is going to listen to the 1st person that says what they want to hear. Regardless of what some of the vets and older guys have to say. Let me give you a fictional example.....

(New guy) Hey - I just bought Deca 20ml and sust 10ml - how should I cycle this?

(Vet) Stats?

(Older guys) Can you give us your stats?

(New guy) 21
6'0
195lbs
17% (im not sure)
Training for 2 years - 1 year serious - and this is my 1st cycle

(Vet) Sorry mate.... I don't think you are ready to cycle. Why not head over to the Diet section and get that diet straightened out.... etc.

(Random semi-new member) Hey man.... run that sust and deca 2x a week - might want more sust tho.....

(New guy) THANKS Random semi-new member!

I have seen it sooo many times and it aggrivates the hell out of me. Here are a few key things to ask yourself before you answer a question.....

1) Do I have personal experience with this?
2) Have I researched this topic on my own?
3) Would I just be parroting information?
4) Would I be able to back up my answer if I got called out?
5) Do I really know what I'm talking about here!?!?

People come to the Q&A section to learn about steroid use..... If we are giving out the wrong advice - they aren't benefitting. Also - the Q&A section isn't meant to be taken as 100% truth. When you ask a question - you have to trust that the guys giving you the answers know what they are talking about. It's just a place to collect other peoples experiences and apply it to your situation. If you have 10 guys telling you that running deca alone is not a good idea..... and 1 guy tells you he did it with no problems..... chances are: you're going to have a problem with it also. Will you for sure? NO ONE KNOWS..... but thats why we are here..... to try and guide new guys in the right direction.

sorry for the rant
~Haz~

[Mooseman33]

great post Haz.

[sigman roid]

I agree with you haz,good post bro

[Aizen Sosuke]

Good job Haz

[1bigun11]

Random Semi-New Member Paroting the above to say "Good job Haz!"

[Vitruvian-Man]

You forgot the part where I asked for Stats... but other then that good overall summary of the thread LOLL. (I just want a name -- "semi-new member" or something) haha.

Kidding around. But definitely the truth Haz.

[D7M]

Nice post, Haz.

[gymnerd]

I agree but some people get carried away with this too. Example I can see asking for stats if someone is asking for cycle advise but if someone asks does anyone like primo? Everyone starts jumping in with post your stats and the thread goes to shit for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Here is why I feal this way if someone is asking for cycle advice they are at the planning stage and are going to run it and they MAY not be ready but maybe someone would just like board feedback on a certian compound and gets a bunch of BS like I wouldnt run that without test (no shit) or stats? Lets use our heads here I have seen a couple of potential threads that alot of good info could have come from ruined this way no one learns anything and we are back to square one.

I realize this is a newbe board in a sence and have to always keep our eyes out for them but if I see a guy has been a member since 06 but doesnt have a bunch of stats and is asking a simple question or opinion I am going to give it the mans obviously not a newb and doesnt need his hand held. Well thats my .002

[elpropiotorvic]

awesome ..BIG BUMP TO THIS

[marcus300]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr dont get me started on this subject, I get so frustrated I have to stop answering questions for a couple of days to help stop me flamming them!!

Good post

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

u're right this will eventually sink to the bottom

but it was an awesome read

here's a bump for ya!

cheers

[Gipps]

The only problem to this is, as you stated they are going to take advice of the first person that says what they want to hear, but if they dont get any advice (they are going to juice anyway) they will seriously have no idea.

Try giving advice as to what you think (i.,e 21 is two young) but if you are going to anyway you have to make sure you do this this and this. etc

Cheers

[BJJ]

Agree with Hazard.

Furthermore, I would suggest that anyone asking for cycle advices, especially young guys, should be advised to have an endocrinologist "on hand" (in some cases also a nephrologist might be mandatory).
Above all the suggestions, this is to me the most important!

[lovbyts]

100% spot on. I see it to many times.

[Hazard]

The only problem to this is, as you stated they are going to take advice of the first person that says what they want to hear, but if they dont get any advice (they are going to juice anyway) they will seriously have no idea.

Try giving advice as to what you think (i.,e 21 is two young) but if you are going to anyway you have to make sure you do this this and this. etc

Cheers

I will give what I believe to be the best advice possible. If they are too young.... I'm going to tell them they are too young and advise them to learn their body before they touch steroids. If they choose to ignor my advice..... so be it - but I will not contribute to their early use of the stuff.....

It's called being "responsible" - would you tell your best friend how to do heroin or try to convince him not to doit?

~Haz~

[lotsoftime]

True. A thought to throw out there also is that seniority is largelly based on post count, so new cats jump on posts just to bump numbers up.

Quallity, not quantity.

[Hazard]

True. A thought to throw out there also is that seniority is largelly based on post count, so new cats jump on posts just to bump numbers up.

Quallity, not quantity.

Very true.....

Just as an example..... I've seen Vitruvian with quite a few good posts...... only 400 post count. We also have some guys with higher post counts that are quite questionable LOL.

There is ALWAYS something new to learn..... I learn something new from Marcus or Swifto every week LOL - I also try and return the favor to those that need the help.

~Haz~

[Big]

awesome ..BIG BUMP TO THIS

ok will do...
bump to this.

[Hazard]

ok will do...
bump to this.

LMAO - you know what..... when I read that post - i thought he was asking you to bump it LOLOL
~Haz~

[D7M]

ok will do...
bump to this.

[Gipps]

I will give what I believe to be the best advice possible. If they are too young.... I'm going to tell them they are too young and advise them to learn their body before they touch steroids. If they choose to ignor my advice..... so be it - but I will not contribute to their early use of the stuff.....

It's called being "responsible" - would you tell your best friend how to do heroin or try to convince him not to doit?

~Haz~

*Sigh*

To answer you silly question, in a reasonable way. I would advise him not to do it, i would talk with him about the consequinces (sp??). But if i know he is going to do it anyway (much the same as most if not all will with it comes to AAS) i would make sure he does it as safe as he possibly could. Then i would beat the **** out of him for taking heroin.

I am not against what your saying, if information is given it needs to be the correct info. What i am saying is that once it is all laid out to them that now may not be the time for what ever reason, to make sure that if they are going to do it, to do it correctly and as safe as possible....... That to me would be the "responsible" way.

Its like sex ed for kids, you dont just say, no to young, you teach them if they are going to do it, put a tarp on it etc etc

Dont compare heroin and AAS, nothing the same, absolutly nothing and it is rediculous to make that connection.

[TITANIUM]

Agreed.

Bump.

T

[TITANIUM]

*Sigh*

To answer you silly question, in a reasonable way. I would advise him not to do it, i would talk with him about the consequinces (sp??). But if i know he is going to do it anyway (much the same as most if not all will with it comes to AAS) i would make sure he does it as safe as he possibly could. Then i would beat the **** out of him for taking heroin.

I am not against what your saying, if information is given it needs to be the correct info. What i am saying is that once it is all laid out to them that now may not be the time for what ever reason, to make sure that if they are going to do it, to do it correctly and as safe as possible....... That to me would be the "responsible" way.

Its like sex ed for kids, you dont just say, no to young, you teach them if they are going to do it, put a tarp on it etc etc

Dont compare heroin and AAS, nothing the same, absolutly nothing and it is rediculous to make that connection.

Bro, I get your point.

But , it's a tangent.

HAZ was just pointing something out.

Best

T

[RANA]

good post and pump. I am very selective on what I post. I will not give advice on gear unless I have ran it.

[DOM6]

good post and pump. I am very selective on what I post. I will not give advice on gear unless I have ran it.

^^
Same here,
BUMP

[WARMachine]

excellent post


war approved!

[DOM6]

Make it a sticky

[WARMachine]

^ I dont think that is gonna happen. But ill gladly keep it bumped.

[Narkissos]

I know this will probably sink to the bottomless Q&A pit..... But i'll post it anyways.

If you are going to give advice to anyone on this website...... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE know what you are talking about. If you aren't 100% sure.... fine.... just state that.

I have seen quite a lot of new guys come in here looking for cycle advice and they have been getting responses from people that had the same questions a few days earlier. It's not that I don't want you to help..... a new guy that comes in looking for cycle advice is going to listen to the 1st person that says what they want to hear. Regardless of what some of the vets and older guys have to say. Let me give you a fictional example.....

(New guy) Hey - I just bought Deca 20ml and sust 10ml - how should I cycle this?

(Vet) Stats?

(Older guys) Can you give us your stats?

(New guy) 21
6'0
195lbs
17% (im not sure)
Training for 2 years - 1 year serious - and this is my 1st cycle

(Vet) Sorry mate.... I don't think you are ready to cycle. Why not head over to the Diet section and get that diet straightened out.... etc.

(Random semi-new member) Hey man.... run that sust and deca 2x a week - might want more sust tho.....

(New guy) THANKS Random semi-new member!

I have seen it sooo many times and it aggrivates the hell out of me. Here are a few key things to ask yourself before you answer a question.....

1) Do I have personal experience with this?
2) Have I researched this topic on my own?
3) Would I just be parroting information?
4) Would I be able to back up my answer if I got called out?
5) Do I really know what I'm talking about here!?!?

People come to the Q&A section to learn about steroid use..... If we are giving out the wrong advice - they aren't benefitting. Also - the Q&A section isn't meant to be taken as 100% truth. When you ask a question - you have to trust that the guys giving you the answers know what they are talking about. It's just a place to collect other peoples experiences and apply it to your situation. If you have 10 guys telling you that running deca alone is not a good idea..... and 1 guy tells you he did it with no problems..... chances are: you're going to have a problem with it also. Will you for sure? NO ONE KNOWS..... but thats why we are here..... to try and guide new guys in the right direction.

sorry for the rant
~Haz~

Great post.

[Booz]

yup if you do not know what you are talking about then do not bother to give advice.........

[DavidYork2]

I agree with that particular example, but I also think it is pompous and annoying when people believe that just because they have 5000 posts and spend more time on a message board than a guy who has 20 posts, that they are the oracle of all truth.

There are endocrinologists, micro-biologists and men who invented crisps who don't post on lots of MB's. It doesn't make them any less knowledgeable.

[TITANIUM]

Bump!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Dancer]

Bump also great read

[Hazard]

excellent post


war approved!

This means more to me than the world! LOLOLOL

^^^^ BUMP ^^^^

~Haz~

[Hazard]

BUMP

~Haz~

[Dukkit]

and this post... is why your a great man

lol

[Hazard]

and this post... is why your a great man

lol

LMAO! you can admit it..... I'm a great man regardless......

~Haz~

[t-gunz]

^^^ i'll admit it you are..... (haz heads starts to grow) lol

great post mate... lot of people think this but haven't posted it.... keep up the good work

[Narkissos]

bump!

[*El Diablo*]

Random Semi-New Member Paroting the above to say "Good job Haz!"

HaHaHaHa! Funny man

ok will do...
bump to this.

Big, Marcus has had a hard time lately to try and fill your shoes and doing his normal job..lol.

excellent post

I agree


war approved!

bump!

TTT