length of cycle

[johnCash]

does it matter if your first cycle is a 14 week test cycle instead of just 12 weeks?

[PC650]

what are you running? test only i hope. why are you wanting too add 2 weeks?

[TITANIUM]

does it matter if your first cycle is a 14 week test cycle instead of just 12 weeks?

12 wks first go around.

PCT protocol?

T

[johnCash]

i ran dbol for 4 weeks and test for 12, longer the better i guess, dont want to stop either. just to let you know im planning on cycling again after the pct is done so in about 7 weeks.

[johnCash]

i want to be safe and not shut down the nat. test in the long run, is that why no longer than 12 weeks for the first time
and pct nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/25/25

[PC650]

clomid 100/100/50/50

[TITANIUM]

No, 12 wks is the standard.

Your time off = cycle time + pct.

PCT usually last for 4 wks.

I think we need your stats, so we can help you better.

T

[Noles12]

I ran my first cycle for 14 weeks because i felt like i was still making gains off of it.

12 is recommended but truthfully i dont feel like the two weeks will do much harm. But if you arent noticing any more gains then there is really no need

[TITANIUM]

Most people will plateau on 12 wks anyways.

T

[Noles12]

Most people will plateau on 12 wks anyways.

T

Yes i agree so most should stop it at 12 but i feel if gains are still being achieved, it is ok to run it the two weeks extra