My first cycle - 100mg deca + 500mg testorviron

[zakwild]

I've just started my first cycle with 100mg deca + 500mg testorviron.

I'm shooting 50mg deca + 250 testoviron on monday and on Thursday.
I only could get 50mg deca because 100mg is either short in supplies or completely out of production as per drug store guys.

How do you rate this cycle. Is 100mg / week deca ok or too little dose?

[Duma23]

drop the deca, u dont need it for 1st ycle and its useless at that dose...

[marcus300]

Stats?

[zakwild]

drop the deca, u dont need it for 1st ycle and its useless at that dose...

What if i shoot 4 amps of deca =200 mg / week ? will it be too much oil?
Can I add Dbol into this cycle, im on day 6 of the cycle at the moment.
Also when will the test kick in?

Stats?

5,11, age 29, weight 75kg, pretty lean.
ALT, AST, hemoglobin OK.

[Duma23]

just run the test at 500mg for 1st cycle u should beef up nicely with ure diet in check.

[zakwild]

Thanks, but the expert at gym says deca is mandatory for first cycle and 100mg/week will play its role in this cycle. The maximum arms muscle size in natural days I could get was 13-14 inch. I wonder how much bigg it will get with help of just a test 500mg/week and how much boost strength wise I will be able to achieve. Currently I lift 40KG on bench press.


My diet is basically gluten free..
ON whey post workout and then after 50 minutes, banana + 1 glass milk + ON casein shake before bed. During the day i eat 1 cup yogurt, 4 egg whites, 300grams fish or 500grams chicken breast, 5-6 bananas, an applie, a glass of orange juice 2 baked potatoes, big bowl of rice with salad. about 30 almonds.. all that with intervals of 5 small meals.

[marcus300]

Thanks, but the expert at gym says deca is mandatory for first cycle and 100mg/week will play its role in this cycle. The maximum arms muscle size in natural days I could get was 13-14 inch. I wonder how much bigg it will get with help of just a test 500mg/week and how much boost strength wise I will be able to achieve. Currently I lift 40KG on bench press.


My diet is basically gluten free..
ON whey post workout and then after 50 minutes, banana + 1 glass milk + ON casein shake before bed. During the day i eat 1 cup yogurt, 4 egg whites, 300grams fish or 500grams chicken breast, 5-6 bananas, an applie, a glass of orange juice 2 baked potatoes, big bowl of rice with salad. about 30 almonds.. all that with intervals of 5 small meals.

Your gym expert doesnt know what he is talking about, deca on a first cycle isnt mandotory at all, you shouldnt be using deca on your first cycle.

[zakwild]

Your gym expert doesnt know what he is talking about, deca on a first cycle isnt mandotory at all, you shouldnt be using deca on your first cycle.

hmm ok then I'll drop the deca. So the two doses of 50mg each that I have taken so far will not disturb the test at all right? Stupid question I know, but please let me know.

One more thing, I am using Arimidex .50 mg EOD. Should I continue taking it?

[dec11]

only 40kg bench? how long have you been training for?

[Duma23]

i wouldnt recommend anyone taking steroids that can only lift 40kg on bench u need to sort ure diet i think, goto the diet section ecause u clearly aint nowere near ure bodys max natual capabilites

[marcus300]

i wouldnt recommend anyone taking steroids that can only lift 40kg on bench u need to sort ure diet i think, goto the diet section ecause u clearly aint nowere near ure bodys max natual capabilites

I thought that was a mistake, surely it cant be true!! if it is I agree with the above^^^^^^^^

[dec11]

ive trained a 57kg girl for a powerlift meet who could rep that 5 times

[zakwild]

only 40kg bench? how long have you been training for?

i wouldnt recommend anyone taking steroids that can only lift 40kg on bench u need to sort ure diet i think, goto the diet section ecause u clearly aint nowere near ure bodys max natual capabilites

I thought that was a mistake, surely it cant be true!! if it is I agree with the above^^^^^^^^

Actually my right arm has faced fractures 3 times during my childhood. So the elbow is kinda missaligned that causes imbalance and it cannot compliment the left arm, also i feel that the strength is about 30% less than the other arm.

So due to that very reason I cannot lift much weight on specific styles where there is a bridge (rod) involved.

I perform much better on dumbells alone though. as good as any other senoir natural guy.

I have been lifting on and off from 3 years now.

P.S Im on gluten free diet as mentioned in my previous post. There is not much freedom there.

Would any of you please answer the 0.50mg Arimidex EOD question. Do i need it with test 500mg/week only cycle?

[DOM6]

research is what you need, are you kidding me 100mgs a wk of deca? for what?

[TITANIUM]

[QUOTE=zakwild;4910326]Actually my right arm has faced fractures 3 times during my childhood. So the elbow is kinda missaligned that causes imbalance and it cannot compliment the left arm, also i feel that the strength is about 30% less than the other arm.

So due to that very reason I cannot lift much weight on specific styles where there is a bridge (rod) involved.

I perform much better on dumbells alone though. as good as any other senoir natural guy.

I have been lifting on and off from 3 years now.

P.S Im on gluten free diet as mentioned in my previous post. There is not much freedom there.

Would any of you please answer the 0.50mg Arimidex EOD question. Do i need it with test 500mg/week only cycle?[/QUOTE]

I would run nolva @ 10 mgs ed.

Save the AI incase you need it.

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[H_U_G_O]

i'm personally on Testoviron cycle, i'm start my third week tomorrow, and believe me you don't need deca i saw results in those 2 weeks and gained around 4kg of muscles but u have to check out ur diet make sure that ur protein intake is pretty high and balance the carbs, but u shouldnt worry about the fat since ur 75 kg and u did not post how many body fat there is...

However drop the deca for your first cycle testoviron will do GREAT !!!


Testoviron is a blend of two different products, namely testosterone with the propionate (short) ester attached, and testosterone with the Enanthate (long) ester attached.

you will love the results, strength muscles and energy will show starting on ur 2nd injection or after 6 days from ur 1st injection, read about how much to inject and how long the time should be between 1 injection and the other to make sure ur blood pressure don't get high..

Peace out !

[zakwild]

i'm personally on Testoviron cycle, i'm start my third week tomorrow, and believe me you don't need deca i saw results in those 2 weeks and gained around 4kg of muscles but u have to check out ur diet make sure that ur protein intake is pretty high and balance the carbs, but u shouldnt worry about the fat since ur 75 kg and u did not post how many body fat there is...

However drop the deca for your first cycle testoviron will do GREAT !!!


Testoviron is a blend of two different products, namely testosterone with the propionate (short) ester attached, and testosterone with the Enanthate (long) ester attached.

you will love the results, strength muscles and energy will show starting on ur 2nd injection or after 6 days from ur 1st injection, read about how much to inject and how long the time should be between 1 injection and the other to make sure ur blood pressure don't get high..

Peace out !

This is actually Pakistani Schering Testoviron Depot. It only contains test Enanthate..

Whats yours ?

[H_U_G_O]

same Pakistani its the enanthate ... how does the box look like ? 3ml in 1 box or only 1 ml ?
mine is 3 amps in the box each contains 1 ml, beleive me u will love the results in the 1st couple of weeks... i have my friend adding deca and primo he's about 65 kg he needs it t ogain weight, but i believe for u testoviron long ester will do just fine.
i am personally using HCG 500 i.u's everything 5th or 6th day + proviron (u don't really need the proviron) about armidex save it till u need it and if u want to use it do it on ur 6th week if ur running ur cycle for 12 weeks. but keep it aside and as my friend said i would do nolva 10mg/day...

[zakwild]

same Pakistani its the enanthate ... how does the box look like ? 3ml in 1 box or only 1 ml ?
mine is 3 amps in the box each contains 1 ml, beleive me u will love the results in the 1st couple of weeks... i have my friend adding deca and primo he's about 65 kg he needs it t ogain weight, but i believe for u testoviron long ester will do just fine.
i am personally using HCG 500 i.u's everything 5th or 6th day + proviron (u don't really need the proviron) about armidex save it till u need it and if u want to use it do it on ur 6th week if ur running ur cycle for 12 weeks. but keep it aside and as my friend said i would do nolva 10mg/day...

I really hope that it will kick in first couple of weeks. From what i've read so far, it kicks in after 3 weeks.

Yes mine is 3 amps in 1 box. I just took some shots of it for you.
here they are.

[H_U_G_O]

yep thats them, they are real and they will do u good..
for the results people will see a change in 2 weeks while u need 3 to 4 weeks to notice a big change on ur body... stick with this it's working for me great.

[zakwild]

yep thats them, they are real and they will do u good..
for the results people will see a change in 2 weeks while u need 3 to 4 weeks to notice a big change on ur body... stick with this it's working for me great.

Great, I'll keep you posted.

[hankdiesel]

You won't even notice the deca. Maybe at that dose it might help your joint but you will not see an anabolic effect.

[zakwild]

You won't even notice the deca. Maybe at that dose it might help your joint but you will not see an anabolic effect.

Precise and clear !

[Kratos]

5'11'' and 167 pounds?
with a 40kg bench

you don't need steroids, you need food