next cycle need help

[slugtastic]

i am 27
i have done 3 short average cycles 8weekers and 1 12 week proper cycle
12-13% body fat
5'10"
84 kilos
i box 4-5 times a week and do weights twice
i run or have a long walk every morning before breakie

i have found a good source, i have test prop endless amount 100mg/ml i have 20 ml of test enth at 250mg/ml and 20mls of boldanone at 200mg/ml i can also get tren a at 75mg/ml and masteron prop, i used mast last time and liked it but my mate is on the tren now and he is having amazing results, so im leaning that way.

so to the experienced members what should i do?? and how should i stack it?? id like to see a few opinions??? thanks...

[Aizen Sosuke]

What are your goals? Bulking or cutting? Could you elaborate on your previous cycles? Can you get anything for PCT? If so what's your plan?

[Critical Mass]

Tren is bad on the kardio. But nothing beats a test+tren cycle.
I had good results with 100mg prop+100mg tren a eod for 8 weeks. And I recommend it highly.

[slugtastic]

i want to cut but put on a little muscle as well but mostly i do cardio, my mate said he trained harder( boxing) on tren, i didn't notice him get worse on our run either... but how much does it effect your cardio???
my last cycle went for 12 weeks, 12 w i ran low test (325mgs a week)11 w i ran boldanone(400mgs a week) and the last 6 weeks masteron at 300mgs aweek
for pct
i have nolva 40/30/20/20
i have hcg
i have arimidex

a week i have ordered clomid

[Big]

everyone is different, tren kills my cardio

[slugtastic]

i like the idea of a short and sharp cycle, if i take 100mgs eod test prop for 8 weeks and 75 of tren eod would that be alright, for my first attempt at tren??? i also have bromo..... for tren sides

[slugtastic]

bump..

[Aizen Sosuke]

I also like short cycles. Bump the tren a to 100mg/EOD along with the prop. If possible inject everyday for better results just bring the dose down in half.

[Critical Mass]

Tren at 75mg eod for 6 weeks. And test p at 100mg eod for 8 weeks.

[slugtastic]

Tren at 75mg eod for 6 weeks. And test p at 100mg eod for 8 weeks.

so do i start the prop early, like prop w1-8 tren w3-8 or w1-6 and drop the tren for last 2 weeks???

[stpete]

Tren kills my cardio also.

I like to run the test a little longer.

[slugtastic]

ok so this what ill try, im going to start next monday,

100eod or 50 ed test p1-8w
75eod or 37.5ed tren1-6w
2 weeks on 2 weeks off of clen the whole time, now 1 last ??
can i run masteron at the same time as the tren or from w3-8??

[Aizen Sosuke]

Forget masteron, that's too many compounds already. Test p 50mg/ed for 8 weeks and tren a 50mg/ed for 6 weeks.

[slugtastic]

so just with these 2 compounds at 50mgs of each ed will i notice much in 8 weeks???

[slugtastic]

will i notice much from just these 2 compounds at those dosages??? bump

[Critical Mass]

will i notice much from just these 2 compounds at those dosages??? bump

Yes you will notice plenty. I weighed 10 kg more than you when I ran that same cycle. Tren is da bomb.

[thebigfella]

so what gains would he expect to make during this cycle, im likin the sound of these short cycles

[slugtastic]

ive just been reading some other threads that i searched and this combo sounds great, shred up put on weight while on medium to low cals...... can't wait i wanna go pin now........