cutting with test E and t3

[ddrraaggoonn]

I was planning a cutting cycle for this spring. using Test E, t3, and possibly a DS for some recomp towards the end.
planning on having reduced calories until week 7 in which i will raise calories to roughly 500 above maintenance

Week 1 Test E 500mg T3 25mcg
Week 2 Test E 500mg T3 50mcg
Week 3 Test E 500mg T3 75mcg
Week 4 Test E 500mg T3 75mcg
Week 5 Test E 500mg T3 50mcg
Week 6 Test E 500mg T3 25mcg
Week 7 Test E 500mg (possibly superdrol)
Week 8 Test E 500mg (possibly superdrol)
Week 9 Test E 500mg (possibly superdrol)
Week 10 Test E 500mg (possibly superdrol)

planning on cutting down week 1-6 and gaining a little lean muscle back after the catabolic t3 during week 7-10. Should amount to a lean physique. Obviously diet and training would be in check and PCT with Nolva.

Any comments or things to change about it?

[CHUCKYthentic]

what are your stats?

age
height
weight
bf%
cycle experience

[ddrraaggoonn]

what are your stats?

age
height
weight
bf%
cycle experience

age: 24
height: 5'10
weight: 215
bf%: ~13-15
cycle experience: this would be my first real cycle, although i have done designer steroids like pheraflex, superdrol, dymethazine, bold, etc... I chose a rather simple cycle to start with

[CHUCKYthentic]

well your cycle looks alright. i personally dont have experience with t3

your pct needs work. need to throw some clomid and an AI like aromasin in there

[ddrraaggoonn]

I forgot to mention that i was going to run anastrozole along with the test e. i was thinking .5mg ED or EOD

[CHUCKYthentic]

.5mg eod

if thats the case then no need for aromasin in pct, just add the clomid. i run my pct as follows:

clomid 100/50/50/50 (or 25 here on last week, depending on length of cycle)
nolva 40/20/20/20

[ddrraaggoonn]

is the clomid necessary? I've ran nolva solo before and recovered just fine, granted they were shorter cycles. I've also read others using nolva solo and being ok.

[CHUCKYthentic]

this is an ongoing arguement and u will get mixed answers. i personally dont understand why guys are so against clomid, its not that bad. you can even run it at a low dose and it will obviously be more effective then not running it

25-50mg of clomid has been proven to restore your natural test levels at a higher rate than nolvadex

why do u not want to take clomid?

[ddrraaggoonn]

Well I already have the Nolva and if the clomid isn't truly needed then i wouldnt want to spend the extra money on it. im not planning to spend more than 200 or so on this cycle so every bit i can save helps.

Also i feel from personal experience and from what i've read from others, that nolva is sufficient solo to recover natural testosterone production.



Also anybody have any experience with t3 that can add some extra input?

[CHUCKYthentic]

well if it works for u

id suggest takin a look at WARmachines pct sticky here in the Q&A thread. great info

[ddrraaggoonn]

thanks i appreciate the input. I'll have to check that out.

also, BUMP to anybody with t3 experience

[foamy]

i always thought you were supposed to run a shorter chain esther like prop with t3. Enanthate is more of a pure mass builder and ull neeed to run it to week3-4 before starting the t3, yes?

[ddrraaggoonn]

ah yes, that would make perfect sense. I could extend the cycle to 12 weeks as follows

weeks 1-12 test E 500mg
weeks 4-10 t3 (ramping up and back down)
weeks 10-14 superdrol or another recomping agent (carries over the 2 week test E clearance before pct)

then pct weeks 15-20

does this look a little better?

[foamy]

looks better not sure if u need the superdrol or not though. Have you already got the enanthate?? If not you may be better off considering cyp or prop?

[ddrraaggoonn]

I found a pretty good deal on some ethanate so i'm going to stick with that

[ddrraaggoonn]

BUMP for anybody with t3 experience

[M302_Imola]

Foamy brought up a good point about possibly waiting for the long estered test to "kick in" before you start the t3. I would love to hear some feedback from some of the vets about this. I too was planning on starting the t3 from start, but happened to think of this same question the other day.

As far as t3, I like how you are starting w/ 25mcg and gradually increasing the dosage and not going to high w/ it as well. That way you can adjust accordingly as you increase the dosage. From what I have read there is no need in tapering the dosage as even 25mcg will shut down your endogenous t3 production. I have done a decent amount of research on t3 as I will be including it in my upcoming cycle but it seems as though there isn't a ton of info available on this forum.

[ddrraaggoonn]

Maybe I'll ramp up to the 75mcg and continue until the end of the 6 weeks. I didn't want to bring it too high because i dont want to burn up precious muscle. I think 75mcg from what i've read would be a good dose for what i want to do.

[M302_Imola]

Maybe I'll ramp up to the 75mcg and continue until the end of the 6 weeks. I didn't want to bring it too high because i dont want to burn up precious muscle. I think 75mcg from what i've read would be a good dose for what i want to do.

sounds like a good plan