Need opinions on this cycle!!

[Smallnaturalbuilder]

Week 1: 375mg Test. E/300mg Deca/20mg D-bol
Week 2: 375mg Test E/300mg Deca/ 25mg D-bol
Week 3: 500mg Test E/400mg Deca/30mg D-bol
Week 4: 500mg Test E/400mg Deca/35mg D-bol
Week 5: 500mg Test E/400mg Deca
Week 6: 500mg Test E/400mg Deca
Week 7: 625mg Test E/500mg Deca
Week 8: 625mg Test E/ 500m Deca

Doing Pinnacle's PCT after that...

What do you guys think??

[G4R]

Not familiar with your stats

Also, dont like the short cycle with the long ester Test and Deca...... IMO

[CHUCKYthentic]

cycle is no bueno boss sorry

stats?

[Smallnaturalbuilder]

I would definitely appreciate some brief explanations as to why that cycle is bad. I am trying to go at moderate doses, since I'm pretty new to steroids. I've done 3 cycles in my life. The first one was Sustanon 250 + Dianabol. At the time I was 19, and while I grew up shitloads of muscle, I also gained a lot of water and lost all my gains because at the last minute I couldn't get any PCT ancillaries. Besides that, my diet was horrible and I developed stretch marks because of all the sudden volume I acquired.

As of now, I'm 24, and I did a Test. Enanthate only cycle by January. I grew from 146 (I had that weight because I was on a low carb-high protein diet to cut down fat) and went up to 164 lbs with a 10 week cycle of Test. Enanthate. I looked awesome, but commited the horrible mistake of doing a low carb diet while on cycle because of my insistence and stupidity of looking ripped by summer. This time, I did PCT with HCG and Nolvadex/Arimidex. This time I kept most of my gains, but the low carb diet caught to me sooner or later and lost about 50% of my gains in that cycle.

From April 2009 to this day, I've been training naturally, using only a fairly good diet (high carb, high protein, thank God!!) and actually weighting about 165 pounds.

Height-- 5"9
Weight--165lbs
Age--24

As you can see, I'm actually a pretty small guy. That's why I thought moderate doses of steroids would actually work for me. I found in my previous 2 cycles, which were of 10 weeks each, that my gains totally stopped at week 8. That's why I think this one should be slightly shorter. I also thought it was a good idea to bump my dose to 625mg the last 2 weeks because gains are very slow in these last weeks. They way I react to steroids is that I quickly grow, but my gains stop halfway.

I've done research in the forum, but really feel I don't understand many things, like the frontloading, etc.

Any help would be very appreciated.

[chuckt12345]

well first there very long esters so your just cutting yourself short by 8wk cycle. Everyone gonna tell you to run deca at least 10wks and the test 12. If you stop gainin weight its prb because you didnt increase your caloric intake as you gained.
second keep the doses consitant.

[Smallnaturalbuilder]

Your point of making the doses consistant is very interesting because I know that's the official position of this forum, but it totally contradicts what a competitive bodybuilder told me. I don't want to stir controversy, just would like to know the basis of your theory and compare it with his.

He told me that consistent high doses of steroids are a total waste, and that I can gain much more doing sort of pyramids. He makes 4 week cycles!! He told me to increase the dosage every 4th day by 125mg. Example:

A 10cc (10ml) bottle of test would be used the following way:

1/2cc---1cc---1 1/2 cc---2cc--2cc---1 1/2cc-- 1cc---1/2cc


Then he would do PCT with HCG and Arimidex.

I never believed in this system because the guy basically stays on steroids year round doing short cycles. He looks INCREDIBLE and weighs around 240 ripped to the bone. But I feel like his system is not designed for me.

NEED HELP!!

[chuckt12345]

Your point of making the doses consistant is very interesting because I know that's the official position of this forum, but it totally contradicts what a competitive bodybuilder told me. I don't want to stir controversy, just would like to know the basis of your theory and compare it with his.

He told me that consistent high doses of steroids are a total waste, and that I can gain much more doing sort of pyramids. He makes 4 week cycles!! He told me to increase the dosage every 4th day by 125mg. Example:

A 10cc (10ml) bottle of test would be used the following way:

1/2cc---1cc---1 1/2 cc---2cc--2cc---1 1/2cc-- 1cc---1/2cc


Then he would do PCT with HCG and Arimidex.

I never believed in this system because the guy basically stays on steroids year round doing short cycles. He looks INCREDIBLE and weighs around 240 ripped to the bone. But I feel like his system is not designed for me.

NEED HELP!!

consitant doses just keeps you more stable and less spikes in plasma levels. less spikes usually the less sides. Im not saying pyramid is not effective in building muscle i just dont think its worth it