The World is about to face a new ERA... (GET READY)

[BJJ]

3rd November 2009, Strasbourg
It was declared that:

The presence of the crucifix in the classroom is "a violation of the right of parents to educate their children in their beliefs' and a breach of the" Freedom of religion of pupils". That was established by the European Court of Human Rights of Strasbourg welcoming the action brought by an Italian citizen. The Italian Minister of Education in a note announces that "The government has appealed against the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg". If the Court will welcome the action, the case will be renegotiated in the Big Room (Organ of the Court to give its opinion on a case that raises a serious question concerning the interpretation or the application of the Convention or of the protocols, or an important question of a general nature). Where, however the use not accepted, the judgment will be definitive between three months, and then it will be to the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe to decide, within six months, what measures will the Italian Government must take to avoid further infringements. The Vatican has expressed "amazement and regret" for a judgment "short-sighted and wrong". The net position of IEC rejects judgment speaking of "partial and ideological".

Basically, this is a first BRICK to a new Era, where religions will be a remembrance.
Unfortunately, if you leave the well known road for an unknown new one, you know what you are leaving behind but do not know what to expect...

The Confraternity is moving right now, so they already have a planned path to be followed by the entire humanity.
They do not need us to believe in religions anymore since they understood our mental development is getting more susceptible to BS.
In fact, the new progenies do not give any importance to the religions.

Hope this makes sense to you, I just want to help.

[Flagg]

The three Abrahamic religions have no place in the immediate future of the human race now. All the praying in the world wont change the climate or solve the economic crisis or bring an end to the two wars in the middle east. Science and logical thinking will.

Humans have always had religion in some form, the pantheon of 12 Gods was popular amongst the Egyptians, Romans, Nords and Greeks.. yet our understanding of the universe is far more sophisticated today than it ever has. Prehaps we'll worship a machine God in the future. All I know is, science, medicine and technology are the driving forces for us now. Our first step is going to be at colonising the moon, because resources here are only finite and if we want to survive and carry on growing at the rate we are, we're going to have to go somewhere else.

Praying wont solve that, techology will.

[inheritmylife]

I suppose this has something to do with your eve-increasing Muslim population over there, no?

I wouldn't expect to be dealt with such tolerance when they become more than just a malcontent, vocal minority.

[Flagg]

I find this story interesting, in light of that BS law being considered in the states that makes it illegal to be blasphemous.

[*El Diablo*]

The three Abrahamic religions have no place in the immediate future of the human race now. All the praying in the world wont change the climate or solve the economic crisis or bring an end to the two wars in the middle east. Science and logical thinking will.

Humans have always had religion in some form, the pantheon of 12 Gods was popular amongst the Egyptians, Romans, Nords and Greeks.. yet our understanding of the universe is far more sophisticated today than it ever has. Prehaps we'll worship a machine God in the future. All I know is, science, medicine and technology are the driving forces for us now. Our first step is going to be at colonising the moon, because resources here are only finite and if we want to survive and carry on growing at the rate we are, we're going to have to go somewhere else.

Praying wont solve that, techology will.

Flagg, please put this in normal English for me, what law is this that they want to bring in?
I cant get the just of that..?

[D7M]

I find this story interesting, in light of that BS law being considered in the states that makes it illegal to be blasphemous.

what law is that?

[Flagg]

what law is that?

I posted a thread about that about two weeks ago but I think it got missed:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ght=Pat+Condel

These are the videos of concern:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQbPY...eature=related

and..

http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/a

Again, Hitchens and Condel are excellent, if a little zealous in their anti-religous beliefs. But I think they make very bold, unappologetic salient points.

[Flagg]

Flagg, please put this in normal English for me, what law is this that they want to bring in?
I cant get the just of that..?

The three Abrahamic religions are Christianity, Islam and Judaism and all three are derived from the story of Abraham...ironic that all three hate each other but come from the same person. The point I was making in my first post is that religion also changes with the times, 2000 years ago it was accepted belief that religion was governed by 12 Gods, which was prevelant in Ancient Greece, Rome and Egypt. Funny don't you think that Jesus would have 12 disciples? Hmm, wonder where he got that idea from. My point is that no 1 religion is any more credible than any other and are far past their shelf life. The sooner we can embrace science and logical thinking the better.

It really worries me. Political Correctness is nothing more than an oppression of Freedom of Speech in my opinion. And bending over to accomadate these religious nuts makes me fvcking sick. Is it possible for democracy to die forever? I mean if this shit can start to infest America like it has in Europe and the UK then what fvcking hope has anyone got?

[BJJ]

The three Abrahamic religions are Christianity, Islam and Judaism and 1 all three are derived from the story of Abraham ...ironic that all three hate each other but come from the same person. The point I was making in my first post is that religion also changes with the times, 2000 years ago it was accepted belief that religion was governed by 12 Gods, which was prevelant in Ancient Greece, Rome and Egypt. Funny don't you think that Jesus would have 12 disciples? Hmm, wonder where he got that idea from. My point is that no 1 religion is any more credible than any other and are far past their shelf life. The sooner we can embrace science and logical thinking the better.

It really worries me. Political Correctness is nothing more than an oppression of Freedom of Speech in my opinion. And bending over to accomadate these religious nuts makes me fvcking sick. Is it possible for democracy to die forever? 2 I mean if this shit can start to infest America like it has in Europe and the UK then what fvcking hope has anyone got?

1
...and before him Zoroastro, or Zarathustra with his God named Ahura Mazda (first to be monotheist) , in the VII-VI century B.C.
... but not only these 4, there are other 13 Gods in the middle, spread around the globe's history with almost the same "stories" of the above reported monotheist religions.

2
U.S.A. are an "English property" and have been already infested deeply.
Yet, what happened here in Italy, where the Vatican is located, shows that "the forces" are changing attitude toward us. I do not think anyway, we shall be receiving any good from that. They will just rule us differently.
So, your statement question "then what fvcking hope has anyone got?" has a very simple answer: the hope dwells in those who are beholding the society's happenings with open wide eyes.

[*El Diablo*]

^^ Aha!.. makes more sense, yeah F*ck ive came to think what works for me, and that not to have all my eggs in one basket, i like to believe that there are a "higher notion" i dont know what the name of this is etc, and that we arent alone, and that we are only part of something bigger, i dont know what though....
And i also believe in the Big bang and stuff.... Thats me.

[BJJ]

I suppose this has something to do with your eve-increasing Muslim population over there, no?

I wouldn't expect to be dealt with such tolerance when they become more than just a malcontent, vocal minority.

No, it does not.

[BJJ]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=1#post4943379

I believe this unique happening must be reported in this thread:

Basically, he told me he enjoyed reading those pages and that "he sees no reasons to disagree".
Said that, I expected him at least to put Christianity in better light than the other monoteist religions; he did not!

"People are afraid of living and this is the reason why many religions throughout the history took place. There is no evidence of any Gods who became incarnate for us, while there are many historical facts which support the idea that religions were a means to dominate."

He also told me that many other in his position have the same belief and for him, as well as for them, being a bishop or a simple priest it is just another way to have a salary at the end of the month.

I was astonished but happy, I have found a no hypocrite friend!

[collar]

religions will always disagree.

The one thing i find very interesting is, what makes someones religion the right religion???

I mean if someone is born into christian family or muslim family, how does that make one better than the other.

Its not like they had choice what to be born into.

So i believe religion is just a guidance into treating everyone as best as you can and living life the best you can..

sorry might be off topic...

also technology and all that stuff is created by men..

[jccnewbie]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...3847743189197#

[BJJ]

religions will always disagree.

The one thing i find very interesting is, what makes someones religion the right religion???

I mean if someone is born into christian family or muslim family, how does that make one better than the other.

Its not like they had choice what to be born into.

So i believe religion is just a guidance into treating everyone as best as you can and living life the best you can..

sorry might be off topic...

also technology and all that stuff is created by men..

The problem is that common people are "forced" to believe in religions because they are unaware of the historical facts.
You do not need a religion to learn how to respect your mother/father/brothers/sisters/friends and so the entire community, you just need to grow up in a stable and respectable family. Your parents will teach you what is right and wrong and while growing up and becoming educated enough to develop a critical thought, you will eventually revalue that teaching.
It is that easy! IMO

[collar]

very true it is, but you know some ppl need that guidance or certain faith to hold on to, you know what i mean?

but i completely understand what your saying and i do agree.

[BJJ]

very true it is, but you know some ppl need that guidance or certain faith to hold on to, you know what i mean?

but i completely understand what your saying and i do agree.

That is the point, that is why religions are so strong and were able to determine the entire path of humanity so far!

So now, since new generations are changing the view they have on religions, what there will be next?
How do they intend to dominate us?

This is my main concern!

[collar]

true true.