Need some help!

[Surrender2Me]

Hello,

I'm running a Test Cyp, Deca and Dbol cycle, with Armidex just in case.
The cycle will be;

Week 1-12 Test Cyp. - 500mgs/week
Week 1-11 Deca - 400mgs/week
Week 1-5 Dbol - 30 mgs/day

* 0.5mg of Armidex per day if needed until end of cycle or problem ceases.

So, can I inject both Test Cyp. and Deca the same time? or can I go one after the other immediately, same spot (glutes).

- Orr, is it better to split the dose and inject twice a week for both Test and Deca? or does it even matter?

- Also, for my post I have Nolvadex and Clomid...how should I run this to see best results, should I add anything?

THANKS.

[D7M]

yes, you can inject the cyp and deca in the same syringe.

you should also split up the shots to twice a week.

read this for your pct, and get back to us with questions:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

and just out of curiosity, what are your stats?
age?
height?
weight?
bf%?

[Surrender2Me]

Okay.

22
5'10''
191
9% give or take.

First cycle, been lifting since 18.

[CHUCKYthentic]

dont run the adex ED run it at .5mg EOD

what questions do you have on pct? can u give us what u think an example pct would be for your cycle?

[CHUCKYthentic]

also id just go ahead and run the test and dbol and drop the deca since its your 1st cycle. this way you can see how your body reacts to the test with no other compound interfering

and you know im gonna say it.... i think you re too young and shouldnt cycle at all

[Surrender2Me]

Yeah I appreciate the advice, honestly do but i'm going to go ahead and cycle.

My PCT is going to be this;

I plan on taking my last injection of Deca on week 10/12 and last injection of Test Cypionate week 12/12. So, week 13 and 14 is going to be nothing and im going to start my Clomid Therapy week 15 for 3 weeks.

Week 1 - 300/100/100/100/100/100/100
Week 2 - 100/100/100/100/50/50/50
Week 3 - 50/50/50/50/50/50/50

That's it and I have Nolvadex but I'm not sure how to stack with Clomid for max results. My main concern is to keep most of my gains and get my testicles and natural test to a normal. Should I add any other PCT to make SURE this is my results? Any suggestions will be considered..

[CHUCKYthentic]

not a good pct at all, way too high of doses

i suggest this: 4 weeks
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 20/20/20/20

[Surrender2Me]

And.. you said 0.5mg or Armidex EOD? Should I run this through the full cycle? Should i wait the last two weeks to help the PCT?.. I will obviously be running it if signs of gyno are evident but if no signs should I run it to help PCT? OR should I run it the full cycle? will this help/not help gains?

Main goal is to hold 210lbs when the PCT is done.

[CHUCKYthentic]

looking back at your post i forgot u were running deca

since it is your 1st cycle i would suggest just the dbol and cyp bro, save the deca for the future.

reason being u need to see how your body reacts to test alone, that way no other compound is involved and you will be able to know what is causing sides if any

deca is pretty hardcore man, ints a 19nor class AAS and has far more serious side effects than test

i still have never run deca

[CHUCKYthentic]

my bad forgot i told you to run the adex, been in too many threads today

yes adex at that dose to avoid heightened estrogen levels

if you run adex on cycle then scratch the aromasin out of that pct i posted above

[CHUCKYthentic]

run the adex from beginning of cycle up to the day before you start your pct

some guys will tell u not to run adex 1st cycle to see if you re prone to estrogen sides. i say F that, why risk getting gyno? makes no sense to me IMO. adex does not affect your gains if you know what you re doing

shit u could even get away with .25mg eod... thats somethin u need to figure out though

[Surrender2Me]

K, so you said:
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 20/20/20/20

Just to clarify you mean stack clomid, nolva and aromasin. Take every day and at them doses for the following weeks? And if I run Armidex every second day throughout my cycle I should scratch the aromasin.

Also, If i run Test C and Dbol what kind of gains will i be looking at? How much would it differ if i added the Deca?

Ps. Sorry for all the questions just trying to educate myself, so i can do this the safest and most progressive way possible.

[CHUCKYthentic]

its cool man, dont be sorry

start the pct regimine of nolva and clomid 14-17 days after your last cyp shot. there are diff opinons on start times, not gonna get into that. if u want to know, ill tell u when id start my pct...lol

adex .25-.5mg EOD, and yes scratch the aromasin if you re gonna choose to run adex on cycle

as for gains man, hard to answer, everyone is diff. i respond great to test. deca is suppose to be a great muscle builder, but it comes with a lot of sides, ie raised prolactin levels that can lead to lactation from the nipples, progesterone, increased estrogen sides, hair loss....

if your diet and training is on u will see great results from the dbol and test only this cycle, trust me

[Surrender2Me]

Alright, I'm going to scratch the Deca. Run Armidex at 0.25mgs every second day(0.5mgs if needed) right until my first day PCT. Which will be 14 days after my last Cyp shot. My PCT will consist of : 4 weeks

Week 1: clomid - 100/100/100/100/100/100/100
nolvadex - 40/40/40/40/40/40/40

Week 2-4: clomid - 50/50/50/50/50/50/50
nolvadex - 20/20/20/20/20/20/20


And, my cycle will be
500mgs of Test Cyp each week
30mgs of Dbol every day.

Does this look alright to run in your opinion? Also should i shoot 500mgs once a week or 250mgs twice a week?

[CHUCKYthentic]

that looks great man, good choice.

yes split the doses, two 250mg/week, ie mon and thurs

[Surrender2Me]

Okay thanks bro. But if i do decide to run the Deca (not this cycle) but down the road i will split the dose per week. But I can shoot both deca and cyp in the same syringe, just change the needle before i inject? just too reduce the # of shots to 2 instead of 4

[CHUCKYthentic]

yes u sure can

[Surrender2Me]

Alright man well thats all the questions I have for now, thanks a lot for the advice its much appreciated.

Syringes easy to come by? ha, havent really checked out any pharmacys to see if they would sell me any. Also, they should supply extra needles if i ask right?

[CHUCKYthentic]

i wouldnt mess with the pharmacy. see that banner up at the top right of the page? you can get em there

[Surrender2Me]

Can i assume its 100% sterile?... also what would you recommend for both drawing and shooting. 23 gauge? 1.5in?

[Surrender2Me]

I was told by my source that 25g 1'' is the best for shooting.. and a 20g for drawing it up. He said 25g 1'' is less painful and works just as well if not better then all the others. ....why would he recommend 20g for drawing though? Alot quicker?