(New to gear) HGH + ORAL Androgen - Advice, please.

[boxy]

Hi everyone,

I have been lifting since I was sixteen. I weighed 140 lbs wet. Since then I have trained hard, supplemented with protein, creating, n.o. & various other supps. I am now twenty two and weigh between 195 and 205 lbs. I'm not ripped, but I'm not holding much fat either. I'm not so technically minded to tell you what my bf% is, but you can see my top four abs and intercostals when I tense them, 13-15% perhaps?

Anyway, I would like to add 5-10 lbs lean muscle on and have aquired a good pack of quality HGH. As I found out, HGH will work much better if coupled with an androgen & or insulin. I don't even want to consider insulin because of the risk it imposes.

I have two androgens at my disposal. Sustenon and (andrenon?? I forget the name, pink oral ones). Please bare with me, I am fully aware that I am ignorant when it comes to gear, but that's the whole purpose of this post. Up until recently, it never crossed my mind, so I never took time to find out about it.

I have enough HGH to do 5 on, 2 off for 5 weeks and have been advised that I can probably add the 10 lbs I desire within that time period if I coupled it with the oral gear. When I come off, I may lose 3 or 4 lbs but keep probably up to 6 of lean muscle. (I don't want to do sus because I'm a wuss & don't want to shoot the gear on this first time.) I am also aware that the oral is more toxic on the liver, but I have been advised that If I were to drink a large amount of water daily, I should be okay.

I only want to really do this once. I want to do one cycle of HGH and roids. Reap the benefit of that and not touch the stuff again.

So my questions are:

1) Do you think that it is reasonable to say that I could add the potential 6-8 lbs of lean muscle mass, assuming my training, diet and rest is correct?

2) If I did intake a reasonable amount of water, would that reduce the side effects of the roids? Namely on my kidneys and liver. (Oh yes, please consider that I do not drink alcohol and have never been drunk, ever. Apparently this would make a difference because if I was one of those people who got drunk every weekend, I would probably experience more sides. So I was told)

3) Is it possible for me to do this one 5 week cycle, get whatever results I get and then never touch the HGH or roids again, without experiencing repurcussions of this cycle years down the line? (I can understand how such an ignorant question may frustrate some people who have been doing this for years, but again please remember, I AM ignorant about the subject and I only ask so that I can learn.)

I am not new to training. I train very, very hard and make sure my diet is as best as I can get it. I am definately not a pro who can do shows, but I can hold my own. I understand nutrition and how and why the body grows. Gear and HGH is just all new to me, and I don't want to dive impulsively into something now at twenty two, just to regret it later on in my life.

Thanks, I appreciate the time.

[boxy]

Oh, I am 5'10, will do 5 IU's of HGH and 200 tablets throughout the five week cycle. start at 6 and build up to 8 a day/5 days a week.

[CHUCKYthentic]

alright 1st of all scratch the idea of using HGH. it is a very serious compound as well and i think u hae a misconception of it. also, it will not do what you are hoping to do

2nd, at 22 you are going to hear that you are too young, and i agree you are. you should really wait to use AAS when you re at least 25

3rd at 5'10 195 or whatever you weigh you can EASILY put on more weight if you know how to diet correctly

[boxy]

Okay. From my research, I assumed that it was too risky, and I'm going to trust your experience in this subject, which confirms it. Thanks. I'm not going to do it.

[CHUCKYthentic]

that is great choice bro, great. most guys wont say that. you ll thank me later

keep working hard and establish a solid base, reach your natty potential. research research research. there is EVERYTHING on this side that u need to know, seriously. diet/training/education on AAS

stick around hang out, dont be shy. ask Qs (good ones, not dumb LOL). hang out in the lounge and shoot the shit

keep up the hard work

[boxy]

No, thank you, I appreciate your cold honesty. I understand the amount of effort it takes to add quality muscle and I would never undermine somebodys achievements (naturally or otherwise). I am making slow, steady natural gains. But please understand, the promise of gaining 5-8 pounds in less than two months was something I had to investigate. But it comes at a cost that I can't risk paying.

Honestly, I saw somebody shoot up for the first time today and it scared me. Not the needle or anything a child would be afraid of. It scared me because it looked a lot like a drug addict, and how close I was to it. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not making a judgement here. It was just a reality shock. I was going blindly into something, and was aware I was doing it. That's more than a little concerning.

Like marriage, religion, ideology etc. I think using roids or HGH or whatever is a very personal choice and can't be taken lightly. I know it's not for me. Seriously, thanks. I guess I was just looking for validation on my doubts. I KNOW I would have regretted this. (Shit, I just spend £200 on that HGH. Hahaha, good. I deserve it for not doing proper research before hand).