cutting help/pointers

[bodybuild707]

routine: 5 days a week lifting, 4 days of cardio( 15 mins after workout, 45 about 5 hours later, none on legs day)

diet: 10 am 2 scoops whey protien, multi
1130am 6 oz fish 1/4 cup brown rice
230pm 6oz fish or beef 1/2 cup brown rice
330pm Work out
530pm 3 scoops whey 10 g's glut
630pm 10 oz chicken, 1/4 brown rice, 1/4 cup vegis, 2 ts ***** 3 oil
830pm cardioa(mon, tues, fri, sat)
930pm 2 scoop whey w/ apple or peanuts or carrots 5 g's glut
1200pm some kind of vegi, 5 g's glut

Would appreciate some tips or any feed back, I have some clen im gonna start beginning of December. Running 3 weeks from the Big Cat.

Ive dropped from 244.6 to 231.6 in the last 6 weeks but was also coming off a cycle.

ht 5 11
wt 231.6
age 23
bf 15ish

thanks
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[**TOP**]

Well first off whats your goals? Second you need to drop the shakes if possible and add whole foods especially for b-fast. Also if you are 231lbs and 15% bodyfat you are a beast!! Post a pic of yourself so we can tell see the bodyfat this makes all the difference when creating a specific diet....TOP

[bodybuild707]

Im trying to cut the weight but keep all my muscle, well as much as possible.

[Twist]

20-25%

[Damienm05]

Definitely around 20% and nothing wrong with that. I went from a similar shape to 12% in less than 2 months with less cardio. It's all about cutting out the carbs, particularly sugar (natural or otherwise - no apple!) in my experience and NEVER eating carbs post cardio. Definitely eat egg whites in the AM for cutting; an incredibly lean protein with next to no cals > whey. Have a 1/2 cup of oats w/ them. Switch it up a little bit and have butternut squash or sweet potato w/ your third meal (I hate doing the same carb twice when I'm eating them minimally as is). Try to avoid eating carbs after 3-5:00 PM. I dunno how this holds up as "health" advice, but if you wanna shred up - that's how.

[Mike Dura]

Consider a radical ketogenic diet. Many people here would probably disagree with that. They'll tell you that you'll lose too much mass and that carbs are needed for training, etc. In my experience, you'll get radically ripped super fast.
Sure you'll flatten out but one carb-up and you fill out. Is it for everyone? I don't know but I do know that the so-called "apples (those withe alot of belly fat). That's me for sure!

Im trying to cut the weight but keep all my muscle, well as much as possible.

[Damienm05]

Keto diet will do it. Everyone is so paranoid about catabolism; it's absurd. Unless you're obscenely huge or just coming off a cycle, you won't lose your hard earned muscle on a keto diet, as long as you continue to eat plenty of pro.

[bodybuild707]

cool thanks guys

[Twist]

Keto at low bf is hard IMO but keto at a bf of 12 and above is easy. Better to do low carb imo at below 12. I drop muscle VERY easily though.

[mg1228]

i had a shake and 3/4 oats for b-fast everyday for 3 mo and went from 15% to 7% so it will work==maybe it could of been quicker with real food other than shake,idk

[Twist]

I stay at a low bf by just not replenishing my carbs. bf is all eggs and efa. after workout only carbs are from asparagus, if any at all. cuts me right up