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    Your diet does not look good bro, especially not for being in your 6th week of cycle. Your protein sources aren't terrible but your carbs are. Pizza, homemade or otherwise is something that one should sacrifice when doing AAS, for example. Post up your bf% and or a pic, be more specific w/ your goals, figure out BMR and TDEE and use fitday.com or other app to get specific macros for your pro/fat/carbs/cals for these meals. I think the rough estimates are way off. You're definitely in the right place for getting it fixed up, ASAP!

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    before we get into what you eat, you need to figure out how much you should be eating. find your tdee. also post up all your stats.

    your diet can be fixed in a little

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    Also, at your age there is absolutely no incentive to do 3 injections per week totaling 600mg. Stick to your current schedule/dose. If you've got time, post up your training as well.
    Last edited by Damienm05; 11-21-2009 at 09:35 PM.

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    after the water weight is gained you start to gain much much slower because the rest is (hopefully) muscle. But get your diet in check. you have to adjust to added weight gain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienm05 View Post
    Your diet does not look good bro, especially not for being in your 6th week of cycle. Your protein sources aren't terrible but your carbs are. Pizza, homemade or otherwise is something that one should sacrifice when doing AAS, for example. Post up your bf% and or a pic, be more specific w/ your goals, figure out BMR and TDEE and use fitday.com or other app to get specific macros for your pro/fat/carbs/cals for these meals. I think the rough estimates are way off. You're definitely in the right place for getting it fixed up, ASAP!
    i added the pizza in cause i felt like i needed some sloppy calories to help put on weight...

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    my training is based on compound movements, heavy lifts, high intensity rep outs, olympic lifts. i played rugby up until i started this cycle, if that gives you any indication about my conditioning..

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    If you stopped gaining, increase kals of you current diet. Next time before starting a cycle plan a better diet and check kals and macros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klimax View Post
    If you stopped gaining, increase kals of you current diet. Next time before starting a cycle plan a better diet and check kals and macros.
    yes im aware i need to increase my calories. my question is which meals should i modify? i dont think anyone would say im not eating a lot and havent given thought to my diet, i have been training for years and have tweaked things over time to figure out what works best for me. i have never stacked a compound before and my body is now operating differently, i was just hoping some one could give some input on what i can change, what i can add or subtract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve View Post
    im on 500 mg of test e 400mg deca im in week 6, i kickstarted with abombs 100mg a day, i put on about 14 lbs...strength is retarded, but i havent been putting on any more weight in the past 10 days...any input?? this is what my diet has been and i have been sticking to it, im bulking. thinking about upping my test to 600 mg/wk (shooting every 3rd day instead of 3.5 days)...

    im 23, 212lbs, 5'10"

    meal 1 - 9 30 am
    2 scoops protein (46 grams)
    1/2 cup whole oats
    1 banana
    milk
    1 tbsp of natty PB
    ****I would drop the banana and the pb for the first "meal"

    meal 2 - 11 15 am
    6 poached eggs
    3 slices turkey bacon
    2 slices of wheat toast
    ****Whole eggs are good, idk about turkey bacon... never looked it up.

    probably take a nap for an hour lol

    meal 3 - 2 pm
    1/2 cup pasta
    2 grilled chicken breasts
    ****better carbs out there, but if this is whole wheat than it's ok

    workout 4-530

    545 pm - PWO shake consists of 46 gram protein with waxy maize simple carbs in water
    ****I would take out the waxy and use oats or something. I don't like fast digesting carbs because the low gi carbs create an carb sensitivity

    meal 4 - 630pm
    homemade pizza (natural toppings etc pretty damn good)
    ****I would not do this meal. Idk what it is but.... I bet it is not that good for you. certainly not natural. I could be wrong though.


    meal 5 - 9 pm
    baked breaded chicken or 2 grilled chicken breasts with some brown rice and beans or veggies
    ****omit the brown rice and add more veggies

    meal 6 - 1130 if im not sleeping yet
    2 buffalo burgers 43 g protein each
    ****I love buffalo! it's the best. I would make this your mandatory last meal because it is red meat and that is better before bed.


    this isnt accounting for the random stuff i eat throughout the day, mixed nuts (no homo) etc, i also take fish oil, and i obviously substitute meals for special things like if i get a nice salmon filet or go out for a steak dinner or sushi...


    using MODEST estimations i'm eating 300grams of protein a day, any advice on what i can modify or why im not gaining the way id hoped. im doing minimal cardio, lifting heavy and really intensely..i dont know why im not blowing up!!!
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    but I bet you need to change the way you workout and adjust the carbs and fats you eat. I need macros and I also don't know where your efas are in the diet. try some pro/fat meals only. mix it up and do low carb for a week or two and see what happens.

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    my training is based on compound movements, heavy lifts, high intensity rep outs, olympic lifts. i played rugby up until i started this cycle, if that gives you any indication about my conditioning..
    Are you planning on changing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve View Post
    yes im aware i need to increase my calories. my question is which meals should i modify? i dont think anyone would say im not eating a lot and havent given thought to my diet, i have been training for years and have tweaked things over time to figure out what works best for me. i have never stacked a compound before and my body is now operating differently, i was just hoping some one could give some input on what i can change, what i can add or subtract.
    Add some slow carbs postwo and at breakfast to increase your caloric intake with 300-500 kals. How many proteins are you eating currently.

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    Buddy, I think you look good.

    And I really don't think your diet is 'horrible'.

    Your physique shows that you lift hard, and that you basically know what works for you where your metabolism is concerned.

    If I had to tweak your diet, based on what you've provided (and your pic), here's how I would go about it.

    Firstly, I'd add at least one more meal... and cut down on the time between meals. A digestive aide and fiber would assist this goal.

    Your current fat intake, I'd spread out more through-out the day... So no more meals with 6 (whole) poached eggs in 'em. Spreading the fat intake will decrease the amount of time each meal has to sit around waiting to be digested... so, you can eat more over the course of the day.

    I'd add carbs to meal 2 and meal 3, and meal 6.

    Yes... meal 6.

    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve View Post
    meal 1 - 9 30 am
    2 scoops protein (46 grams)
    1/2 cup whole oats
    1 banana
    milk
    1 tbsp of natty PB

    meal 2 - 11 15 am
    6 poached eggs
    3 slices turkey bacon
    2 slices of wheat toast

    probably take a nap for an hour lol

    meal 3 - 2 pm
    1/2 cup pasta
    2 grilled chicken breasts

    workout 4-530

    545 pm - PWO shake consists of 46 gram protein with waxy maize simple carbs in water

    meal 4 - 630pm
    homemade pizza (natural toppings etc pretty damn good)

    meal 5 - 9 pm
    baked breaded chicken or 2 grilled chicken breasts with some brown rice and beans or veggies

    meal 6 - 1130 if im not sleeping yet
    2 buffalo burgers 43 g protein each

    this isnt accounting for the random stuff i eat throughout the day, mixed nuts (no homo) etc, i also take fish oil, and i obviously substitute meals for special things like if i get a nice salmon filet or go out for a steak dinner or sushi...


    using MODEST estimations i'm eating 300grams of protein a day, any advice on what i can modify or why im not gaining the way id hoped. im doing minimal cardio, lifting heavy and really intensely..i dont know why im not blowing up!!!
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    I noticed that you go 10 hours (sometimes more) without a meal from sleep to wake. Thats nearly HALF the day bro! Wake up mid-rest and down you atleast a shake (meal is better). Other than that, I see some good advice given. Take heed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos View Post
    Buddy, I think you look good.

    And I really don't think your diet is 'horrible'.

    Your physique shows that you lift hard, and that you basically know what works for you where your metabolism is concerned.

    If I had to tweak your diet, based on what you've provided (and your pic), here's how I would go about it.

    Firstly, I'd add at least one more meal... and cut down on the time between meals. A digestive aide and fiber would assist this goal.

    Your current fat intake, I'd spread out more through-out the day... So no more meals with 6 (whole) poached eggs in 'em. Spreading the fat intake will decrease the amount of time each meal has to sit around waiting to be digested... so, you can eat more over the course of the day.

    I'd add carbs to meal 2 and meal 3, and meal 6.

    Yes... meal 6.
    thanks bro, thanks everyone for the input

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    Quote Originally Posted by yungone501 View Post
    I noticed that you go 10 hours (sometimes more) without a meal from sleep to wake. Thats nearly HALF the day bro! Wake up mid-rest and down you atleast a shake (meal is better). Other than that, I see some good advice given. Take heed.
    im a senior mechanical engineering major, i have early classes and long days, and i crash pretty hard when i get home, i definitely value my sleep. maybe ill take some bcaas right before i jump in bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve View Post
    im a senior mechanical engineering major, i have early classes and long days, and i crash pretty hard when i get home, i definitely value my sleep. maybe ill take some bcaas right before i jump in bed
    Don't.

    Have the 7th meal: Solid protein + some fats... It'll be more beneficial.

    Get that sleep man. I only *wish* I could manage to sleep that long personally.

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    ok bro..im making 2 buffalo burgers right now with some homemade guacamole on them then its bed time! im 215 today so thats good progress

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    ^^Nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve View Post
    im on 500 mg of test e 400mg deca im in week 6, i kickstarted with abombs 100mg a day, i put on about 14 lbs...strength is retarded, but i havent been putting on any more weight in the past 10 days...any input?? this is what my diet has been and i have been sticking to it, im bulking. thinking about upping my test to 600 mg/wk (shooting every 3rd day instead of 3.5 days)...

    im 23, 212lbs, 5'10"

    meal 1 - 9 30 am
    2 scoops protein (46 grams)
    1/2 cup whole oats
    1 banana
    milk
    1 tbsp of natty PB

    meal 2 - 11 15 am
    6 poached eggs
    3 slices turkey bacon
    2 slices of wheat toast

    probably take a nap for an hour lol

    meal 3 - 2 pm
    1/2 cup pasta
    2 grilled chicken breasts

    workout 4-530

    545 pm - PWO shake consists of 46 gram protein with waxy maize simple carbs in water

    meal 4 - 630pm
    homemade pizza (natural toppings etc pretty damn good)

    meal 5 - 9 pm
    baked breaded chicken or 2 grilled chicken breasts with some brown rice and beans or veggies

    meal 6 - 1130 if im not sleeping yet
    2 buffalo burgers 43 g protein each

    this isnt accounting for the random stuff i eat throughout the day, mixed nuts (no homo) etc, i also take fish oil, and i obviously substitute meals for special things like if i get a nice salmon filet or go out for a steak dinner or sushi...


    using MODEST estimations i'm eating 300grams of protein a day, any advice on what i can modify or why im not gaining the way id hoped. im doing minimal cardio, lifting heavy and really intensely..i dont know why im not blowing up!!!
    I cant tell you how many threads ive seen lately with an individual on one or more compounds that has yet to realize the importance of getting the diet dialed in before the cycle begins! The diet will ALWAYS dictate how your chosen AAS cycle will work for you. So i beg you to just take the fraction of the time to correct your diet before you start medicating,THANKS....... TOPHER

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    Quote Originally Posted by ** TOP ** View Post
    I cant tell you how many threads ive seen lately with an individual on one or more compounds that has yet to realize the importance of getting the diet dialed in before the cycle begins! The diet will ALWAYS dictate how your chosen AAS cycle will work for you. So i beg you to just take the fraction of the time to correct your diet before you start medicating,THANKS....... TOPHER
    Wow TOP, if you had a nickel for every time you said that phrase, you could buy a tub of MuscleTech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ** TOP ** View Post
    I cant tell you how many threads ive seen lately with an individual on one or more compounds that has yet to realize the importance of getting the diet dialed in before the cycle begins! The diet will ALWAYS dictate how your chosen AAS cycle will work for you. So i beg you to just take the fraction of the time to correct your diet before you start medicating,THANKS....... TOPHER
    i thought my diet was where i wanted it to be, i know in order for me to bulk to i need to eat some shit food..i have a crazy metabolism...i had to readjust it now that everything is kicking in...thanks for you help anyway broski guess i wont be seeing u much since u banned for whatever reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve View Post
    i thought my diet was where i wanted it to be, i know in order for me to bulk to i need to eat some shit food..i have a crazy metabolism...i had to readjust it now that everything is kicking in...thanks for you help anyway broski guess i wont be seeing u much since u banned for whatever reason
    Number twelve please disregard everything that came form that quote,it was copied and pasted from something else i wrote by someone thats not me.Listen to NARK's advice and again disregard what has been said...TOP

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    Quote Originally Posted by **TOP** View Post
    Number twelve please disregard everything that came form that quote,it was copied and pasted from something else i wrote by someone thats not me.Listen to NARK's advice and again disregard what has been said...TOP
    ok thanks for the clarification buddy

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    here is an update of what im looking like, i have one leg in front of the other which is why my lower half looks weird...
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    Whats your current weight? looking jacked.

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    im just under 220 but i have leaned up a lot too

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