Upcoming cycle questions...DECA or EQ?

[BGIZZLE8629]

What's up everyone!? I have decided that I will be starting my next cycle sometime around this upcoming spring, but I have a few questions about what gear to get and how much of it to take...

The base of my cycle will be Test E @ 500mg/wk for 15wks while taking D-BOL @20-40m ED for 4-6 wks (if i go 6wks then it would be 20mg/ed..4wks would be 40mg). D-BOL dosages sound right, correct?

Now, Im not sure if I should go with EQ or DECA @ 400mg/wk for 12 wks. Before you decide, I must say that I believe that I am a bit prone to 19-nor related gyno (AKA prolactin/progesterone related gyno). I did a cycle years ago of tren and winny and did not have BROMO or CABERGOLINE. I think that I had some prolactin/progesterone related issues bc ever since then, my nips have been a bit "puffy"

Now, I have never taken Deca so I am not really sure how my body would react to it and if it would worsen any prolactin issues that I may currently have. I have taken EQ @ a low dose before (200mg) and loved it! My stamina went through the roof as well as my vascularity and strength.

But, it is my understanding that Deca is better than EQ @ mass building. Is that a correct statement? I do want to put on a lot of size and considerable amount of strength from my next cycle but cannot choose between DECA and EQ (obviously), which is why i am asking for your advice...

Basically, if I go with DECA then I will almost have to get BROMO right? I planned on taking arimidex @ .25-.5mg EOD throughout my entire cycle but anti-e's do not have anything to do with the prolactin/progesterone that comes with 19-nors. If I get deca/bromo, then, its best to take bromo only 2-3x/wk correct? (I only have access to BROMO @ the time so CABER is basically out of the equation)

Also, I was thinking about adding in some winstrol (tabs) towards the conclusion of my cycle as well. I was thinking about taking 30-40mg/day in wks 14-17 but I cannot decide on this either because I am already taking an oral at the beginning of my cycle and do not want to go overboard with orals (i would like to keep my liver functioning properly throughout my life).

Do you guys think that winny @ the end would be TOO MUCH?
Has anyone ever run a similar cycle? If so, can you tell me about your personal experience with any of the substances mentioned above?

Supps while "on" will include:
100% Whey
True Mass
Glutamine
Fish oil
CoQ10
Multi
L-Carnitine
Pre W.O. supp (possibly)
Vitamin C
Milk Thistle

Here are my possible cycle scenarios:

1)Test E 500mg 15wks/EQ 400mg 12wks/DBOL 30-40mg 4wks/ADEX .25mg ED/NOLVA 10mg ED (maybe)

2)Test E 500mg 15wks/DECA 400mg 12wks/DBOL 30-40mg 4wks/Adex .5mg ED/BROMO 2.5mg twice/wk

3) Same as #1 but with 30-40mg winstrol ed in wks 14-17
4) Same as #2 but with 30-40mg winstrol ed in wks 14-17

PCT for Cycle will be:
CLOMID-100mg ed for 5 days, 50mg for 9 days, 25mg for 14-21 days
NOLVA-40mg for 5 days, 30mg for 9 days, 20mg for 14-21 days
ADEX-.25-.5 mg ed for 28-35 days

I apologize for SO MANY questions but they are all necessary. Thanks to everyone for all advice/suggestions pertaining to my thread questions!!

[Hazard]

OK..... I don't want to get into anohter EQ debate..... i'll give you MY opinion...... but said opinion doesn't apply to EVERYONE.

EQ sucks..... Does nothing for mass IMO.....

I would run Test and deca. I'm not sure how adex works with bromo but i know if you're running caber you should get aromasin instead of Adex. Maybe someone can confirm that one.

BTW..... can you give us your stats?

~Haz~

[BGIZZLE8629]

OK..... I don't want to get into anohter EQ debate..... i'll give you MY opinion...... but said opinion doesn't apply to EVERYONE.

EQ sucks..... Does nothing for mass IMO.....

I would run Test and deca. I'm not sure how adex works with bromo but i know if you're running caber you should get aromasin instead of Adex. Maybe someone can confirm that one.

BTW..... can you give us your stats?

~Haz~

I was unaware that adex/bromo together created complications.
STATS: 6' 217lbs 23yrs old, been lifting for 5 years-hardcore for about 2-3
Ive done a few cycles in the past. tren/winny, test cyp, low dose test/eq, dbol + test e. So this will be my fifth cycle. Thanks for the feedback

[BGIZZLE8629]

any other thoughts?

[BGIZZLE8629]

Bump

[Big]

I don't care for EQ personally.
what is your current bf%?

[BGIZZLE8629]

I don't care for EQ personally.
what is your current bf%?

current bf is around 15%

[darkcrayz]

id skip eq and run deca.

id do some more research on adex/bromo in the pct section also.

id only run dbol the first 4 weeks, not 6. by then the test and deca will be peaking and you wont need the dbol to kick start.

id run test higher then deca to avoid limp dick.

you can get caber on AR if you dont want to run bromo.

winny? you bulking/cutting? if cutting then cut dbol and add winny at the end, if bulking drop winny and run dbol.

why you running 17 weeks again?

[BGIZZLE8629]

well since nobody gave me any relevant advice on what i should do, i went ahead and got EQ. Now, I have a new set of queries: Should i pyramid the dosages from 250mgs up to 750 then back dwon to 250 for the last week of the cycle or keep test @ 625mg/wk for all 12 wks? im thinking about running like this:

Test E:
wk 1-250mg
wk 2-500mg
wks 3-10:750mgs
wk 11-500mg
wk 12-250
EQ:
wks 1-10: 400mgs
Dbol:
wks 1-4: 30-40mgs daily

the scenario above is how a heavyweight bodybuilder i know said I should run it. This guy isnt the brightest crayon in the box but he gets his cycles/dosages ect from a pro who he trains with so I know that there is some merit behind this theory... another way I could run it is:
Same dosages for eq/dbol but change Test E to: 625mgs/wk throughout the entire cycle (wks 1-12). BUT, if im shooting 2x/wk this amount makes it difficult to measure in syringe because it is not an exact measurement in relation to the vial's mg/mL. So i would have to pin like 375mgs on monday and then 250 on thursday---wont this make it hard for blood levels to stay consistent, thus entailing more sides (oily skin, acne, ect..)??

Also that about running Test @ 500mg/wk for 15wks and lowing EQ to about 300/wk for 12-13wks......... I definitely need some direction here bc I am not sure of the best way to utilize and run my gear. If SOMEONE can help me out I would really appreciate it! Thanks again

[BGIZZLE8629]

everyone has been a tremendous help

[Big]

well since nobody gave me any relevant advice on what i should do, i went ahead and got EQ.

everyone has been a tremendous help

hard to believe you aren't getting more help

no, don't pyramid, a quick search would have answered that for you.

I wouldn't run eq, but if you want to run it you'll need at least 600mg/week for at least 12 weeks in my opinion.

[Critical Mass]

^^ I agree 100% with Big!