Type of gear for first timer..

[gcguiness]

Any suggestions as to what a newbe should use for a starter cycle? I want to put on some muscle, and lose some BF.. I don't want anything to complicated, just a good jumpstart to get me going. I dont know much so I want to research gear and the upside/downside of anything I may use. Any imput would be great-thanks.

[Big]

test only is the most recommended first cycle, although at our age you should look into trt.

[kaju]

Any suggestions as to what a newbe should use for a starter cycle? I want to put on some muscle, and lose some BF.. I don't want anything to complicated, just a good jumpstart to get me going. I dont know much so I want to research gear and the upside/downside of anything I may use. Any imput would be great-thanks.

Big is correct. but first let me say loosing body fat is done from diet not from gear. come back and tell us your stats. age, body fat index, heigth, your time in the gym and goals.

[gcguiness]

My age is 42, Ive been back in the gym for a few months after years of inactivity, Im 5'8" and weigh 187lbs. My BF is 23% according to my bathroom scale. Ive been doing the stronglifts 5x5 and have seen some strength increases, but also some joint pain in my elbows. (Im sure its my age).. I realize that diet is the only way to loose the BF but I want to put on more muscle to increase my metabolic rate to burn more fat. Im not looking to be a body builder, I would like to just get larger and increase strenght to play sports and keep up with my boys.. Thanks guys for your help..

[gcguiness]

Sorry I forgot to tell you, Ive been working out heavy three days a week, and running two to three days a week... Thanks

[PistolPete33]

You need to start with the diet section and get your bodyfat down about another 10%. You should be hitting the gym for one to two years minimum before touching gear. You can cause a lot of ligament damage as you increase the weight etc. I'm going thru it right now with tendonitis in my elbow. Plus, I've been in the gym for years and am in good shape but had I not been in the gym for as long as I have the injury would be much worse I'm sure.

[gcguiness]

Thanks pistol pete33, just trying to learn all I can from everyone, thanks for the heads up.

[chicmagnet]

Yeah I'd wait a while before trying gear...you will notice a massive difference just with diet and training...patience my friend.

[gcguiness]

Thanks chicmagnet, I will do that, I just like to think long term. I like to plan everything out. I need to learn alot more on diet, and get the bf down to 13% or less from what everyone is saying on forum. Thank you for your imput...

[PistolPete33]

You can see a huge maturity difference in yourself vs. a lot of the younger kids coming on here wanting to do a cycle. Being mature you take advice and know that the advice given here is to HELP YOU. When we get 18 year olds wanting to do AAS they just pony up an attitude and say they are going to do it no matter what.

With your attitude you will easily get down to the desired weight and bodyfat you're looking for. At that time you can reward yourself with some AAS to really knock the results out of the park.

As for your original question, for a first cycle keep it simple. Test E or C at 500mg/week shot twice 3 1/2 days apart. Follow that up with PCT of Nolva and Clomid and you will be good to go. 12 weeks on 14-18 days after last injection for PCT depending on if going with Test E or C and you're good to go.

[gcguiness]

Thanks for the info pistolpete33, yea Im over 40 and want to do things correctly. Not rushing in and hurting myself is of utmost concern. Hope to bounce some questions off of you in the future..

[ScotchGuard]

As you're getting into shape you should look into supplements. Creatin and L-glutamin worked great for me. I've been training for over 35 years and just did a cycle this year. It was a great experience except for the acne.

[gcguiness]

Thanks scotchguard, will do...

[LionsGate]

lota good advice here.

do the most u can naturally.

your only 42. thats not that old! it just sounds like your simply out of shape. be patient, your metabolism is prolly slow after years of inactivity along with a bad diet.

with weights diet and cardio u can get it jump started again. lifting promotes GH anyhow. (not sure how much it diminishes at this age bracket tho-if any)

[kaju]

Get yourself into the gym and/or go running, bicycling or what ever. like the Nike ad "just do it". literally work your ass off.
as you are doing this look into the steroid profile page on this forum and study clenbuteral and cytomel. when done right it can help. but let me caution you about the cytomel. If not done right it can kill your thyroid. so please read and learn before you make a decision on this. but diet and exercise will git you where you need to go.

[gcguiness]

Thanks lionsgate/kaju I will follow the great advise given on this thread. Started on the diet section this week, will get my bf to 10% and train another 6 or 7 months before considering AAS. Great input people, Im learning alot...

[TITANIUM]

Excellent posts here.

Good solid advice.

I'm so used to Q&A and the maturity level there.

This is refreshing.........................

Best

T

[PistolPete33]

Excellent posts here.

Good solid advice.

I'm so used to Q&A and the maturity level there.

This is refreshing.........................

Best

T

When you start losing faith with some of the newer members (I'm one of them) it's nice to get someone that is truly doing his research and taking advice. This is the person that will excell in bodybuilding and truly make gains beyond his expectations.

[gcguiness]

Appreciate the words pistolepete33, i will follow the advise of people who are really trying to help someone, and have the knowledge that i do not have at this early stage of lifting weights/training correctly. thanks again..

[craiger999]

lots of good advice but can someone tell me the best gear for cutting and no bloating.

[sarasotafloridabrian]

Great thread.
It was interesting that no one mentioned VAR.
I know it's an oral, and test is likely best, especially considering his levels may have lowered.
I am 41 and going for my bloodwork early next week as advised to do so by senior members before I start any cycle. In the interim, give it time. I've been back in the gym for a year now. Took a little time off after a car accident in December, but otherwise doing 4 to 5 lifting days a week.