ED problem on test

[jasonjazz317]

Hello everyone:

I am currently on a sustanon cycle 500mg/week for 2 weeks. I am having a little bit erection problem, and my sex drive is not very high. Has anyone ever experienced this before? are there any solution for this? should I come off the cycle now? Thanks

[peachfuzz]

whats your injection frequency?

do you have an AI?

[jasonjazz317]

[QUOTE=peachfuzz;4966806]whats your injection frequency?

do you have an AI?[/QUOT

I am using 40mg of Nolva/day, I think my estrogen level is too low, I read low estrogen level can reduce sex drive in men. I am going to do a blood work pretty soon here.... maybe that can tell me a bit more.

[ythrashin]

Why you using 40mg on Nolva ED? Drop the Nolva bro' and get a AI to control estrogen.

[ythrashin]

The key to controling estrogen is to start out at a low amount then slowly increase the AI if needed. You run into these complications by blocking/removing to much estrogen.

2 weeks into the cycle there is no dang way you need 40mg of Nolva ED to control estrogen the Test hasnt even kicked in yet.

If nolva is all you can get to control estro start out low 10mg ED then bump up if needed.

Nolva is a serm though and is best saved for PCT.

[peachfuzz]

ya nolva does nothing to lower estrogen. and thats a high dose anyway for the cycle your on.

[jasonjazz317]

I guess I had complete wrong understanding about Nolvadex , Thanks for the info on adex. I guess I still have fair amount of estrogen in my blood even when I am using Nolvadex. That could very well be my sex drive problem. What's the good starting dosage on Adex, also, is it a good idea to use nolvadex with adex just to be safe? or you just use AI, and add dosage if needed?

[Big]

I wouldn't use a serm or an ai on cycle unless sides call for it, or past cycle experience tells me I'll need it.

[ythrashin]

I guess I had complete wrong understanding about Nolvadex , Thanks for the info on adex. I guess I still have fair amount of estrogen in my blood even when I am using Nolvadex. That could very well be my sex drive problem. What's the good starting dosage on Adex, also, is it a good idea to use nolvadex with adex just to be safe? or you just use AI, and add dosage if needed?

No, Nolva blocks estrogen at the recptor actually very well. The point is that you are using to much to soon.The other point is that an AI is better at controlling estrogen because it prevents the conversion of testosterone into estrogen instead of just blocking it at the receptor like Nolva.

[ythrashin]

So you dont have enough estrogen making it to the receptor and its killing your sex drive.

[ythrashin]

I wouldn't use a serm or an ai on cycle unless sides call for it, or past cycle experience tells me I'll need it.

Good advice... and when starting your AI or serm to control estrogen. Start with a small amount then gradually increase the amount if needed. If you start mega dosing for prevention when you dont know if you need it you run into these type of problems.

[chuckt12345]

yea seems like alot of noobs are getttin scared into using to many products they dont need.

[Bonaparte]

So you dont have enough estrogen making it to the receptor and its killing your sex drive.

Nolva only blocks estrogen in BREAST tissue.
OP, your problem is probably that the Nolva itself is giving you ED issues (but probably not by blocking too much estrogen). I've never read a good explanation for why it does this, but Nolva does have a tendency to cause ED problems in certain guys.
And yeah, 40mg on cycle is retarded. Just get some Adex.

[ythrashin]

I always thought Nolva competed with estrogen at all receptor sites being that its an estrogen agonist.

It may do this better with breast tissue but it would compete with all estrogen at all the receptors.

[ythrashin]

I'm interested if its true that a estrogen agonist can selectively target only BREAST estrogen receptors.

Does anyone have any documentation/studies supporting this?

[peachfuzz]

Ythrashin Nolvadex is a mixed agonist/antagonist and yes it is selective. hence the selective in selective estrogen receptor modulator.

[ythrashin]

Cant believe I've missed this about Nolva... actually found plenty of reading on the subject. Wonder how it only blocks some receptors and not others....

[jasonjazz317]

Thanks for all the info guys. it's great. I ordered some adex to control my estrogen. I have concern about switching to adex right now, since I am on nolvadex for a while. should I take nolvadex couple more days till my AI kick in? or just simply switch over and cut nolvadex completely?

[peachfuzz]

you can overlap a few days. it only takes about a week to reach steady blood levels.