First timer please help.

[no1tou]

Sorry you guys have to answer my stupid noob questions but I if not here where the hell do I ask?

So here goes...I have been considering using steroids for a long time but like most I'm just as worried about the negative side effects as I am the positive. I'm not scared of needles but I am scared of gaining then loosing it all when I eventually one day have to come off them for good. Why would I? I don't know. Money, no time, drug testing, or maybe just plain don't feel like it.

Either way how many people do you guys know who stoped using and was able to maintain any of their gains? If so for how long?

Second, if your nuts shrink how long till they go back to normal? Does your norm test production ever go back to norm or will it always be a little lower than it was before steroids?

I figured this is a new guy type question so forgive me. Thanks for any info.

[inky-e]

Sorry you guys have to answer my stupid noob questions but I if not here where the hell do I ask?

So here goes...I have been considering using steroids for a long time but like most I'm just as worried about the negative side effects as I am the positive. I'm not scared of needles but I am scared of gaining then loosing it all when I eventually one day have to come off them for good. Why would I? I don't know. Money, no time, drug testing, or maybe just plain don't feel like it.

Either way how many people do you guys know who stoped using and was able to maintain any of their gains? If so for how long?

Second, if your nuts shrink how long till they go back to normal? Does your norm test production ever go back to norm or will it always be a little lower than it was before steroids?

I figured this is a new guy type question so forgive me. Thanks for any info.

I usually have been able to keep 75% or more of my gains post cycle. It really depends on your training and eating habits...also a good pct will allow your natty test to go back to normal on its own...shrinking nuts vary as the individual they pertain to does.

[livebigdieyoung]

as long as you have proper PCT then you will defo have normal test production will get back on track, if you want i can do you a newbie cycle? along with PCT

[no1tou]

as long as you have proper PCT then you will defo have normal test production will get back on track, if you want i can do you a newbie cycle? along with PCT

Yes please do! I was gonna use the novie cycle #1 but was confused as to what pct to use since there was none mentioned.

I aprecieate any and all help.

[BJJ]

Sorry you guys have to answer my stupid noob questions but I if not here where the hell do I ask?

So here goes...I have been considering using steroids for a long time but like most I'm just as worried about the negative side effects as I am the positive. I'm not scared of needles but I am scared of gaining then loosing it all when I eventually one day have to come off them for good. Why would I? I don't know. Money, no time, drug testing, or maybe just plain don't feel like it.

Either way how many people do you guys know who stoped using and was able to maintain any of their gains? If so for how long?

Second, if your nuts shrink how long till they go back to normal? Does your norm test production ever go back to norm or will it always be a little lower than it was before steroids?

I figured this is a new guy type question so forgive me. Thanks for any info.

Stats?

as long as you have proper PCT then you will defo have normal test production will get back on track, if you want i can do you a newbie cycle? along with PCT

How do you know for sure? I do not believe it is a proper answer for a newbie.
Also, in regards of the bold, are you kidding, right?

Yes please do! I was gonna use the novie cycle #1 but was confused as to what pct to use since there was none mentioned.
I aprecieate any and all help.

Do your own researches!

[no1tou]

Stats?



How do you know for sure? I do not believe it is a proper answer for a newbie.
Also, in regards of the bold, are you kidding, right?



Do your own researches!

I'm 28 years-old 5'11" and I weigh 176lbs about 6-8% bf when cutting and around 190s in the winter. Currently I am 186lbs. Been lifting for 5 years. 2 years seriously (good diet and better training regime)


I don't want to bother if I have to spend so much money between gear, doc visits, food, and all the other crap if I'm just going to loose it all with in a year of coming off. That and the possibility that I may be even worse off afterward.

I am dying to get bigger/stronger but I'm looking long term and don't want to be dependent on gear the rest of my life.

I've been doing a lot of research over the years but mainly in the past few weeks I've started seriously considering. I'm just looking for a someone with good personal experience to point me in the right direction.

[BJJ]

I'm 28 years-old 5'11" and I weigh 176lbs about 6-8% bf when cutting and around 190s in the winter. Currently I am 186lbs. Been lifting for 5 years. 2 years seriously (good diet and better training regime)


I don't want to bother if I have to spend so much money between gear, doc visits, food, and all the other crap if I'm just going to loose it all with in a year of coming off. That and the possibility that I may be even worse off afterward.

I am dying to get bigger/stronger but I'm looking long term and don't want to be dependent on gear the rest of my life.

I've been doing a lot of research over the years but mainly in the past few weeks I've started seriously considering. I'm just looking for a someone with good personal experience to point me in the right direction.

Then, setup your own cycle, considering what you have learnt so far, and post it in the proper section of the forum.
Everyone, will be ready and happy to criticize it.
But, you cannot expect anyone to make a cycle for you.

[no1tou]

Then, setup your own cycle, considering what you have learnt so far, and post it in the proper section of the forum.
Everyone, will be ready and happy to criticize it.But, you cannot expect anyone to make a cycle for you.

That's why I asking for help. I've never done the stuff so any one who has I figure probably has a better idea than I do.

My default plan is to use novice cycle #1 200mgs test e twice a week for 12 weeks and 20mgs of dianabol for the first 4 weeks only. But then my question is, since they don't have a pct plan what should mine be? Should I just keep clomid and nolva on hand in case, pop 10mgs of nolva a day while cycling, or cycle then do the norm nolva/clomid pct?

Also should I take something to cleans my liver of the dianabol? If so what, how much, and during cycle or after?

[BJJ]

You should cycle normally having on hand either nolva and an AI like arimidex.
You do not know if you are gyno prone, so eat correctly, workout hard and hope you are one of the lucky ones. Besides, you want to use only 200 mg of test en so a low dose.

I would run the pct like this:
Week 1 clomid 100mg / nolva 40mg
Week 2 clomid 50mg / nolva 20mg
Week 3 clomid 50mg / nolva 20mg
Week 4 clomid 50mg / nolva 20mg
All ed

However, you must take a blood work before you start your cycle and at least another one around the 11th week to see where you are and adjust your pct accordingly.

Regarding your liver and not only, take during your cycle and your pct: LIV.52, EFA complex (6/9 gr ed), ALA, Vitamin E, Vitamin C/Ester (3 gr ed), multi vitamin/mineral (slow release).

All of the above, IMO.

[tboney]

Stats?



How do you know for sure? I do not believe it is a proper answer for a newbie.
Also, in regards of the bold, are you kidding, right?



Do your own researches!

I agree. There is always a chance of him altering his test levels permanently!! A good pct can reduce the chances of that happening but not a guarantee.

[chuckt12345]

(I don't want to bother if I have to spend so much money between gear, doc visits, food, and all the other crap if I'm just going to loose it all with in a year of coming off. That and the possibility that I may be even worse off afterward. )


theres your answer right there,, dont do them.

[no1tou]

(I don't want to bother if I have to spend so much money between gear, doc visits, food, and all the other crap if I'm just going to loose it all with in a year of coming off. That and the possibility that I may be even worse off afterward. )


theres your answer right there,, dont do them.

I was hoping no one would say this.

[chuckt12345]

I was hoping no one would say this.

once you get on you will NOT stop at one if your cycle goes smoothly. It will be an ongoing thing until you come to terms with your natural size.

[dec11]

i wouldnt say tht you 'must' have blood work done

[BJJ]

i wouldnt say tht you 'must' have blood work done

why not?