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    PCT after long cycle; Nolvedex w/ or w/p Clomid

    OK guys, I have been on a TRT cycle for quite a while and took it with Arimidex because I am gyno prone. I'm trying to have another kid right now and am also curious to see what my body would do with a strong PCT. I am also applying to the Coast Guard in a direct commission program and won't be able to carry test and needles with me if accepted. Right now I have Nolvedex, Clomid and Aromasin on hand. I know that you shouldn't take the Arimidex with the Nolvedex. I was planning on using the Nolvedex with the Aromisin for PCT. My question is should I throw in the Clomid as well? From what I have read on this forum people usually utilize one or the other. I don't have any HCG on hand. It's a little harder to get than the standard PCT protocol. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philly Grappler View Post
    OK guys, I have been on a TRT cycle for quite a while and took it with Arimidex because I am gyno prone. I'm trying to have another kid right now and am also curious to see what my body would do with a strong PCT. I am also applying to the Coast Guard in a direct commission program and won't be able to carry test and needles with me if accepted. Right now I have Nolvedex, Clomid and Aromasin on hand. I know that you shouldn't take the Arimidex with the Nolvedex. I was planning on using the Nolvedex with the Aromisin for PCT. My question is should I throw in the Clomid as well? From what I have read on this forum people usually utilize one or the other. I don't have any HCG on hand. It's a little harder to get than the standard PCT protocol. What do you think?
    If your on HRT, why do you wish to come off?

    Did you seld prescribe HRT, or did the doctor prescribe it?

    How long have you been using HRT or any AAS that cause shutdown? Thats any form of testosterone preperation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    If your on HRT, why do you wish to come off?

    Did you seld prescribe HRT, or did the doctor prescribe it?

    How long have you been using HRT or any AAS that cause shutdown? Thats any form of testosterone preperation.
    Yes, TRT. I'm coming off to see how I do without the test. I may be going away for the military for a couple of weeks to where I would not be able to shoot it. I'm also trying to have another kid right now and I know that the test is shutting off my natty production. I have been on doc prescribed test cyp for about 2 years. I'm aware that my body may not turn back on but I was curious to see. I'll be truthfully honest though, I usually shoot once a week and it has been a week and a half since my last shot. I feel like crap: tired, shaky and weak. Don't know how much longer I can put up with it before injecting again lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philly Grappler View Post
    Yes, TRT. I'm coming off to see how I do without the test. I may be going away for the military for a couple of weeks to where I would not be able to shoot it. I'm also trying to have another kid right now and I know that the test is shutting off my natty production. I have been on doc prescribed test cyp for about 2 years. I'm aware that my body may not turn back on but I was curious to see. I'll be truthfully honest though, I usually shoot once a week and it has been a week and a half since my last shot. I feel like crap: tired, shaky and weak. Don't know how much longer I can put up with it before injecting again lol.
    Have you used HCG during that time (during HRT) at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Have you used HCG during that time (during HRT) at all?
    No, none at all. The only thing I used during that time was Arimidex.

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    Your testes have now become atrophied because they havent been stimulated by endogenous LH/FSH in "2 years". Your suffering from testicular dysfunction.

    You need to kick start your testes with some HCG, then begin a SERM protocol for 6-8 weeks IMHO.

    Something like:

    21 Days of HCG 500ius/ED, Aromasin 10mg/ED.

    SERMs

    Tore 120/120/100/100/60/60
    Clomid 100/50/50/25/25/25

    Tore 120mg/ED for 2 weeks, Clomid 100mg/ED week 1, etc...Combining both Tore/Clomid.

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    If you can handle Clomid's side effects at larger doses, 100mg/ED would be good for 1-2 weeks. Heck, some studies on hypogondal males are done on 100mg/ED for 3 months!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Your testes have now become atrophied because they havent been stimulated by endogenous LH/FSH in "2 years". Your suffering from testicular dysfunction.

    You need to kick start your testes with some HCG, then begin a SERM protocol for 6-8 weeks IMHO.

    Something like:

    21 Days of HCG 500ius/ED, Aromasin 10mg/ED.

    SERMs

    Tore 120/120/100/100/60/60
    Clomid 100/50/50/25/25/25

    Tore 120mg/ED for 2 weeks, Clomid 100mg/ED week 1, etc...Combining both Tore/Clomid.
    Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. I have actually never heard of tore before, what is that?

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