Newb need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jean Claude]

Ok so I'm 23. 225 lbs. About 16% BF, 6'2.

I don't want to take anything crazy cause I'm already big. I just need something really smooth (possibly a creme I Was reading) to give me a little bit more. I need to know what there is and what side effects there are.

I know absolutely nothing about the different names and whatnot... I know the basics to this, as in cycling and taking a post cycle. But my intention is not to go into the injectible or oral side. My friend who took oral, I almost had to beat him up a few times

What are some good creams? What are their side effects? Do you cycle them? Do you need a post cycle?

I'm sorry if I broke the rules to this forum in any way. kind of in a hurry!

[urbanbody]

If your not ready for steroids ie:injections then stay clear of using anything. Do some more research.

[southrnathletic]

ive never met anyone that used any type of cream...ive met a couple dumb asses that just took orals like a dbol only cycle...

if i were you and wanted to get an edge i would just get some test e or c and see how it goes...

pinning is fun! =] nothing to be scared of..just dont hit a vein and make sure you dont get infections where your ass falls off...good luck lol

[Jean Claude]

If your not ready for steroids ie:injections then stay clear of using anything. Do some more research.

what do you mean? I currently take stuff like Anabolic Halo which is a creatine powder post-workout you can get at GNC. I take whey also.

I just don't know which is better... taking the steroid or taking the supplement (with way way way less results)? Honestly my bench hasn't gone up in the last 2 years. It actually went down in the past year

Look, I don't care if it's an injectible as long as it's safe, does not stop my natural testosterone production, and I can walk away from it with no worries or regrets. That's all.. I know seems like too much to ask for.

[lovbyts]

What you are talking about is Testosterone cream/gel or Androgel.

NO you dont want to use this. It will only shut off your natural test and supplement it with a much lower does than what you are producing now.

At your age you want to stay away from ANYTHING that says it is testosterone supplement because if it truly is it will shut down your natural testosterone and you will have issue.

Fist think is you want to learn to diet. Learn what to eat, when to eat it and you will get more benefits than any supplements you could take at your age. Your natural test levels are HIGH now, dont screw them up.

[Jean Claude]

What you are talking about is Testosterone cream/gel or Androgel.

NO you dont want to use this. It will only shut off your natural test and supplement it with a much lower does than what you are producing now.

At your age you want to stay away from ANYTHING that says it is testosterone supplement because if it truly is it will shut down your natural testosterone and you will have issue.

Fist think is you want to learn to diet. Learn what to eat, when to eat it and you will get more benefits than any supplements you could take at your age. Your natural test levels are HIGH now, dont screw them up.

I know all about the diet man. It's not that hard, my mom is a doctor and a health freek. No juice or soda in the fridge. No pizza. No chips. No sweets. etc.

I'm just asking for advice about steroids. I know that I need to eat proper. I already do. It is hard, however, to gain muscle while at the same time being cut if you just take supplements.

[anabol1590]

Thats not a diet, thats just not eating junk food. Its a start though, when i first starting crusing the forums i thought i new everything but you quickly realize how much research needs to be done. There are infinite amounts of info on these matters. Dieting, training, sources, etc.

I know all about the diet man. It's not that hard, my mom is a doctor and a health freek. No juice or soda in the fridge. No pizza. No chips. No sweets. etc.

I'm just asking for advice about steroids. I know that I need to eat proper. I already do. It is hard, however, to gain muscle while at the same time being cut if you just take supplements.

[cybernox]

Well you need to go through this:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010

and there are more than enough supplements. Try out NO powder and some natural test boosters like tribulus. I guess the results will be slower than Steroids but you wont land low on natural test with that.

[southrnathletic]

im lost as to what the questin even is anymore...i mean if you dont want to take anything that will shut down your natural test and you dont want to take anything that is injectable or oral..then what the hell did you search the forums of Steroid-forums.com?

[urbanbody]

Your not ready bro.

[Jean Claude]

im lost as to what the questin even is anymore...i mean if you dont want to take anything that will shut down your natural test and you dont want to take anything that is injectable or oral..then what the hell did you search the forums of Steroid-forums.com?

Well, like I said before, I heard about a testosterone cream that gets absorbed by your skin so it bypasses the liver (which is what I want). But luvbyts mentioned that it's not a good idea cause it will shut down my test production while giving me less test than I had before.

I'm pretty much just trying to get attention on here.

No, I'm just trying to inform myself and it's easier to talk to people who have been through this than to read a bunch of nonsense that doesn't necessarily apply to what I'm trying to do.

Like I said, I'm already big and I would just need something to give me a slight boost in test but not so much as to shut down my test build. I have taken the advice and bought tribulus (or whatever it's called the bottle isnt near me) and I noticed something an hour after I took it. My balls hurt a little and I am really horny.

Anways. Maybe I'm not ready for this. Maybe I should just go the natural route as long as possibe... and one day when I'm 45 and my test is down I might get into it. I don't know.

[lovbyts]

I know all about the diet man. It's not that hard, my mom is a doctor and a health freek. No juice or soda in the fridge. No pizza. No chips. No sweets. etc.

I'm just asking for advice about steroids. I know that I need to eat proper. I already do. It is hard, however, to gain muscle while at the same time being cut if you just take supplements.

Dont take offense to guys being short with you but it's true, that is NOT a diet, only healthy eating.

You need to learn to eat 6-8x a day. Yes really. It makes a BIG difference on what you eat and when you eat it.

Yes Im sure you are talking about the Androgel and other test cream. Really it would NOT boost your test, only shut you down and not give you enough to make up what you already produce. It is for older people who have already stopped producing testosterone but even then most people it only helps a little and NOT enough for any muscle gains.

[soon2bfreak]

there are some people who put test blends into a transdermal gel, not as effective as a shot, but the same exact thing and just as illegal so whats the point. plus i've heard a lot of serious type sides about transdermal gels. now if you are talking about something you get on a website or at gnc dont waste your money. listen to the guys about diet, even on gear it's still 75 percent of your results