Cycle gone terribly wrong

[ozzybb]

my main question is, how should i be stacking?

my situation: i bought a vial of test prop and a vial of equipoise. injected once every 3 days of either one, e.g. mon-test prop, thu-eq, sun-test prop, wed-eq.
and currently in my 3rd week of the cycle and so far, i have not seen any major results.

am i stacking this correctly? the person i bought the gear of told me to use them like this but because i have not seen any results i am considering changing the way i stack to something like this:
plan A: mon-eq, tue-test prop, thu-eq, fri-test prop, sun-eq, mon-test prop and so on, after i finish what gear i have left (already ate 2/3 of each bottle) i will jump on to sustanon 250 as i have not made any major gains

[marcus300]

You have no idea what your doing, you should ask for advice before you start something not after.
What are your stats?
How many cycles have you done?
How long have you been training for?

[ozzybb]

i know, I'm clueless but i need to finish what i started at least.
my stats:
age:22
height:173cm
weight:75kg
this is my first cycle, so far no great mass gains, i have lost some body fat though. and i have been training with weights for 4 years now

[greatstuff]

when I used Prop and Boldelone (Eq) it gave good solid results. I used 50 tabs of dbol with it.
Check your diet and how you train, I think its the basic principles your doing wrong

[marcus300]

My advice is to stop taking steroids, at your age you can cause yourself some harm what will effect you for the rest of your life.
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[ozzybb]

that is a scary thought, i may not use sus now, but regardless i will finish what gear i have left. can you tell me if i was using them right in the first place? or if i should move on to plan A (w/o sus)
great stuff: how did u use eq and prop? was it like how i was doing it (an injection of either 1 every 3rd day)?

[marcus300]

Come off all gear and go into PCT, you have no idea what your doing and can cause yourself serious harm, there isnt a correct way to cycle at your age,

Why are you not listening

[darr]

I think marcus is 100% right start your pct asap!

[gsxracer]

Marcus because were all stuborn, at the age of 20's is where we can get most laid, and what's the easiest way to get laid then having a rock hard abs and a big muscular body, which is why 99% of the people in there 20's will start roids, and they don't care about the after effects.

[Big]

Even if you were old enough, which you are not, your cycle ius horribly flawed. I can tell that just by your injection frequency, and the fact that you haven't listed dosages or your pct is further evidence that you have no idea what you're doing.

[ottomaddox]

Spoken by a typical wanna-be meathead. You'll all be caring when you can't get hard with your chisseled abs.......The easiest way to get laid is called having self confidence, and the girls that care about that stuff you mention are all skanks anyways.............Grow up!

Marcus because were all stuborn, at the age of 20's is where we can get most laid, and what's the easiest way to get laid then having a rock hard abs and a big muscular body, which is why 99% of the people in there 20's will start roids, and they don't care about the after effects.

[marcus300]

Marcus because were all stuborn, at the age of 20's is where we can get most laid, and what's the easiest way to get laid then having a rock hard abs and a big muscular body, which is why 99% of the people in there 20's will start roids, and they don't care about the after effects.

This is why you should listen to people who have been there and done it, you dont want to be cycling so you can get laid, how old are you again?

Do you want to be able to get a hard on?


You should climb of that high horse of yours and listen, concentrate on your diet and you will have rock hard abs, you have no idea what your doing so my advice is to stop it,,, the only people who will advice you will be young guys who dont know what they doing, jeez kids

[gsxracer]

Marcus, I never said you were wrong, to be honest I think you're right at 100%, but I'm 23 and I've hit my plateau's and I've changed my diet like 10 times, and workout regimes like 25 times, I've been working out for 5-6 years,

I was just elaborating why kids these days will not listen to you,

it's because we've been fed since we were young to have this body, ect.. ect..

[Researcher]

Marcus, I never said you were wrong, to be honest I think you're right at 100%, but I'm 23 and I've hit my plateau's and I've changed my diet like 10 times, and workout regimes like 25 times, I've been working out for 5-6 years,

I was just elaborating why kids these days will not listen to you,

it's because we've been fed since we were young to have this body, ect.. ect..

No. It's because you want everything right now without putting in hard work. You want instant gratification. You try something for two weeks and if you aren't Arnold it's shit advice. Building a quality physique takes years. Mature muscle is what you're after.

If you need to be huge to feel good about yourself you need to see a psychologist.

[Bossman]

Listen to Marcus and Big, stop taking them now.

Your compounds are not the same. One is quick acting and one is slow acting. You don't have enough with one vial each to do anything but completely wreck your endocrine system (hormones,things that give you boners!). You have no idea what you're doing and using these will cause more harm then good.

[gsxracer]

I guess reading isn't your strong point, researcher

[Researcher]

I guess reading isn't your strong point, researcher

I've read your threads. You have no room to talk.

[dec11]

Marcus, I never said you were wrong, to be honest I think you're right at 100%, but I'm 23 and I've hit my plateau's and I've changed my diet like 10 times, and workout regimes like 25 times, I've been working out for 5-6 years,

I was just elaborating why kids these days will not listen to you,

it's because we've been fed since we were young to have this body, ect.. ect..

you have no place advising others on here, u went against advice yourself and are going to screw up, u even posted tht you couldnt be bothered to count your calories for f**k sake!!!

[gsxracer]

I'll be giving my 2 cents, even thought you might be older then 25 and taking steroids dosen't mean your knowledge is beyond mine, just means your older, and considering I know more about my body then you or anyone else in here I don't need to be taking advice on how it works.

And I never went against the advice that was given to me by very knowledge users, I just went against the fact that they said the "age of consideration should be 25".

If this makes me a sinner then be it, but I will share my 2 cents along and there not much you can do about it, other than keep QQ'ing away, because my experience will help 85% of the users here, because most users are underage(25).

Till you can show me that you have half of my experience in working out and dieting your advice shall not be taken into consideration in my books. declan just a fyi.

and also the fact that you're judging me on age, is actually degrading and to be honest childish.

[2jz_calgary]

your a dumbass ban him

[dec11]

I'll be giving my 2 cents, even thought you might be older then 25 and taking steroids dosen't mean your knowledge is beyond mine, just means your older, and considering I know more about my body then you or anyone else in here I don't need to be taking advice on how it works.

And I never went against the advice that was given to me by very knowledge users, I just went against the fact that they said the "age of consideration should be 25".

If this makes me a sinner then be it, but I will share my 2 cents along and there not much you can do about it, other than keep QQ'ing away, because my experience will help 85% of the users here, because most users are underage(25).

Till you can show me that you have half of my experience in working out and dieting your advice shall not be taken into consideration in my books. declan just a fyi.

and also the fact that you're judging me on age, is actually degrading and to be honest childish.

excuse me half your knowledge? have a quick look at my profile you silly child, jez thts the laugh of the week

so tell us hows it done then, you and almond should get 2gether,

LMFAO

[dec11]

your a dumbass ban him

yeah man, these silly kids should be banned 4 a week each time they give stupid uninformed 'advice' they might learn then

[PO OFFICER]

I did a cycle when I was a freshman. (14 years old!!!) I recovered fine and had a great cycle. I still to this day regret it. So many things could happen, like what marcus said. Besides, I don't see teh point in life if I can't get a boner

Point is, you shouldn't be on a cycle. If I had a crystal ball I'd bet I'd see you getting hrt for the rest of your life. Finish your cycle, do a pct, and stay off the roids.

[Kibble]

Lol.... from what I understand, this thread should have been locked after post #5

[Loaded61]

you gave him the info he needed his choice to take it with a grain of salt or not should just drop it now

[ozzybb]

well you guys should know more than me b/c you've been through this already, so i've decided to heed your warnings and come off the gear. i plan on starting pct in 2 weeks, ill be using novaldex. my balls havent shrunk and there arent any signs of gyno, do i still need to do pct?

[Big]

Yes, you need to pct. Good call.