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    Looking to cut, diet critique please

    I let myself become a fat slob. I 'think' my body fat percent is 30%, I bought a caliper and tried to use it but got varied results. I could post up a pic if needed. I got all of the calculations from an online calculator. The daily calories seem pretty high though. My activity level is low, I am unemployed ATM and am pretty sedentary. I pretty much play video games all day and do stuff around my apartment. I do cardio 5 days a week but would like to bump it up to twice daily.


    Estimated Base BMR: 2153 Calories.
    Estimated TDEE: 2960 Calories.
    Estimated Daily Caloric Need For Weight Loss: 2460 Calories.

    Age: 31
    Height: 5'10"
    Weight: 260
    Bodyfat Percentage: 30%?
    TDEE: 2960
    BMR: 2153
    Goals: I want to be 220 in 3 months absolute MAX

    Diet Plan
    Gym- (7:30) 1Hour Cardio- Hi/Low Intensity Mix

    Meal 1 (9:00)
    PWO Shake = 49g protein, 10g carbohydrates, 22g Fat, 420 Calories

    Meal 2 (12:00)
    1c Egg Whites = 27g protein, 2g carbohydrates, 1g Fat
    1/2c Oats = 5g protein, 27g carbohydrates, 2.5g Fat
    1/2sc Whey = 11g protein, 1g carbohydrates, 1g Fat
    Total Macros = 43g protein, 30g carbohydrates, 4.5g Fat, 332 Calories

    Meal 3 (3:00)
    8oz Chicken = 46g protein, 0g carbohydrates, 5g Fat
    2c Brocolli = 6g protein, 6g carbohydrates, 0g Fat
    1/4c Brown Rice = 3g protein, 34g carbohydrates, 1g Fat
    Total Macros = 54g protein, 34g carbohydrates, 6g Fat, 442 Calories

    Gym- (6:00) 1Hour Cardio- Low Intensity

    Meal 4 (7:30)
    PWO Shake = 49g protein, 10g carbohydrates, 22g Fat, 420 Calories

    Meal 5 (9:30)
    8oz Chicken = 46g protein, 0g carbohydrates, 5g Fat
    2c Zucchini = 4g protein, 8g carbohydrates, 0g Fat
    1Tbsp EFA = 0g protein, 0g carbohydrates, 14g Fat
    Total Macros = 50g protein, 8g carbohydrates, 19g Fat, 390 Calories

    Meal 5 (11:30 Before Bedtime)
    1can of Tuna = 22g protein, 0g carbohydrates, 1g Fat
    2 Tbsp Natty PB = 7g protein, 6g carbohydrates, 18g Fat
    Total Macros = 29g protein, 6g carbohydrates, 19g Fat, 300 Calories


    Total Macros for the Whole Day
    274g protein, 98g carbohydrates, 92.5g Fat, 2304 TOTAL CALORIES

    Should I knock down carbs and bump up protein? All of the fats are from Smart Beat Natural PB and EFA. I tried following suggestions from members in all of the threads I could find. I don't know if I actually hit the mark. It seems like a lot of food, a lot more than I eat now. I am on a similar diet but I haven't been eating as much as is on the plan because I am just not hungry.
    Last edited by Failure; 12-20-2009 at 11:11 PM.

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    The tdee may be overstimated.
    Do you lift weights or do you do only cardio?

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    At the moment, only cardio. If lifting weights will help then I am all for it.

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    A KETO diet would be good for someone to recommend to this fella!

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    u need a real meal in the morning before or just after ya protein shake

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    Quote Originally Posted by **TOP** View Post
    A KETO diet would be good for someone to recommend to this fella!
    I did a Keto diet back in the day and dropped a good amount of weight. I didn't mention one this time because I was nervous the weight would come back. What do you suggest? 30%pro/10%carb/60%fat? Or go higher in the protein? I can put together a diet, just need to know what percents I can work with.

    Quick Edit: Thank you to all helping and giving advice. I really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure View Post
    At the moment, only cardio. If lifting weights will help then I am all for it.
    Lifting will help to retain lean body mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klimax View Post
    Lifting will help to retain lean body mass.
    And grow more also,intern allowing him to eat more calories and burn more calories!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure View Post
    Diet Plan
    Gym- (7:30) 1Hour Cardio- Hi/Low Intensity Mix

    Meal 1 (9:00)
    PWO Shake = 49g protein, 10g carbohydrates, 22g Fat, 420 Calories
    should have carbs here, like oats; egg whites instead of shake

    Meal 2 (12:00)
    1c Egg Whites = 27g protein, 2g carbohydrates, 1g Fat
    1/2c Oats = 5g protein, 27g carbohydrates, 2.5g Fat
    1/2sc Whey = 11g protein, 1g carbohydrates, 1g Fat
    Total Macros = 43g protein, 30g carbohydrates, 4.5g Fat, 332 Calories
    skip the whey, add more whites; maybe the brown rice here, although a sweet potato or some red/black beans would be infinitely better

    Meal 3 (3:00)
    8oz Chicken = 46g protein, 0g carbohydrates, 5g Fat
    2c Brocolli = 6g protein, 6g carbohydrates, 0g Fat
    1/4c Brown Rice = 3g protein, 34g carbohydrates, 1g Fat
    Total Macros = 54g protein, 34g carbohydrates, 6g Fat, 442 Calories
    skip the rice, double up on the broccoli; add some EFAs too


    Gym- (6:00) 1Hour Cardio- Low Intensity you should start lifting on some days

    Meal 4 (7:30)
    PWO Shake = 49g protein, 10g carbohydrates, 22g Fat, 420 Calories
    if you're not lifting, I would eat meal 5 here; if lifting, the carbs and fat will need to be adjusted

    Meal 5 (9:30)
    8oz Chicken = 46g protein, 0g carbohydrates, 5g Fat
    2c Zucchini = 4g protein, 8g carbohydrates, 0g Fat
    1Tbsp EFA = 0g protein, 0g carbohydrates, 14g Fat
    Total Macros = 50g protein, 8g carbohydrates, 19g Fat, 390 Calories
    this is fine, and you can switch up veggies, or even have some almonds instead of the EFAs; a way better option would be fatty fish like salmon and just the veggies

    Meal 5 (11:30 Before Bedtime)
    1can of Tuna = 22g protein, 0g carbohydrates, 1g Fat
    2 Tbsp Natty PB = 7g protein, 6g carbohydrates, 18g Fat
    Total Macros = 29g protein, 6g carbohydrates, 19g Fat, 300 Calories
    maybe some whey and some cottage cheese here; personally, i would use hard cheese (full-fat), as it digests the slowest and offers casein as well

    I think people tend to shy away from carbs, yet don't realize that when properly timed, they are invaluable for a cut. Keep your starchy carb meals early. Complex/fibrous carbs and protein after the morning cardio is paramount IMO, as it keeps the metabolism revved up. If you can stomach some broccoli in the morning, that would be a great addition too. I also highly recommend either a citrus fruit (oranges are perfect) or some berries somewhere in your daily diet, as they digest quickly, are fibrous, low GI, and are loaded with vitamins and anti-oxidants.

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    Why would you take carbs postcardio in cutting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klimax View Post
    Why would you take carbs postcardio in cutting?
    IMO, the first meal of the day should be a pro/carb meal, regardless of whether you did cardio or not. do your cardio, consume nothing but water for about 30-45 minutes after, then keep that metabolism running with some lean pro and complex, fibrous carbs. cardio done later in the day would be ok followed by pro/fat.

    it's a muddy issue, and current fitness level and goals need to obviously be taken into account.

    more importantly is type of cardio. slow-go cardio doesn't really 'keep the fat burning' for as long as people think, plus remaining in a (relatively) glycogen depleted state for several hours after waking up is not a good plan.

    plus, on a cut, I prefer to take in all of my carbs early in the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkey View Post
    IMO, the first meal of the day should be a pro/carb meal, regardless of whether you did cardio or not. do your cardio, consume nothing but water for about 30-45 minutes after, then keep that metabolism running with some lean pro and complex, fibrous carbs. cardio done later in the day would be ok followed by pro/fat.

    it's a muddy issue, and current fitness level and goals need to obviously be taken into account.

    more importantly is type of cardio. slow-go cardio doesn't really 'keep the fat burning' for as long as people think, plus remaining in a (relatively) glycogen depleted state for several hours after waking up is not a good plan.

    plus, on a cut, I prefer to take in all of my carbs early in the day
    I agree with most of this except the carbs have to be veggies and if the subject is at a high bf % then I recommend using that glycogen depleted state (morning) to their advantage.

    definitely X2 on the LIcardio statement

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