test-e + deca + anavar?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

age 24, 5'9.5 190lbs, 1 previous cycle (500mg test-e 12 weeks)

it would be:
week 1-10 test-e 500mg
week 1-8 deca 400mg
week 5-10 anavar 40mg

would this be a good cycle to gain lean mass but also harden up and possibly even lose fat, assuming my diet is perfect?

I am going on a cruise mid-april so I want to bulk but also remain shredded. I had a thread about my cruise situation a few days ago but i just wanted to follow up

[redz]

I would extend the test to 12 weeks and the deca to 10 weeks. The results of the cycle will be diet dependant. How did your first cycle work out?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I could do that. first cycle gained 22lbs by increasing my calories by an extra 1100 when i started the cycle, after finishing off a cut before i started the cycle. I lost a little bit of leanness though in the process but did gain a lot of muscle.

I have been hearing that prop could be better in this case because it bloats less, in which case I would have to drop the deca and go with npp. I already have test-e on hand though so its more convenient but i could also buy prop if i have to. will i gain a lot of muscle but also be more ripped with this cycle by adding the anavar?

[charlesriley]

why deca?? why not use tren instead?

and yeh im on prop, i love it, and i have no bloat im just cuttin up like a razor, its different than what i expected and great lol

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I was thinking of tren as well actually. The sides have been making me possibly want to avoid it but im going to do it eventually anyway so I could do it instead of deca. does tren cause erectile disfunction the same way deca does or is it not quite as bad? I would prob do 400mg (good dose, right?) of ace instead of deca if i went that route I suppose

[charlesriley]

im also on winny though so gotta think bout that

but seriosly deca blows imho, theres tren and d-bol and boldenone that have similar outward effects and better strength effects with less water and less sides and less hpta wreckage ....imho

[charlesriley]

tren can cause tren-dick but its supposedly not as bad......and i believe it....tren is a cutter and a mass gainer. i wanted to add it to my current cycle but stopped cause its stays in your system a while and i have to take a piss test in march

[MotoLifter]

most people wont get too much lean mass with test e, deca although alot has to do with diet. but traditionally test e and deca are a bulking cycle. i like test prop, tren, for lean mass. i know a guy who ran a test prop, tren a, var cycle and at the end looked like he was carved out of marble. dont remember his dosages though.

Moto

[chuckt12345]

try deca b4 tren

[AlphaMaleDawg]

most people wont get too much lean mass with test e, deca although alot has to do with diet. but traditionally test e and deca are a bulking cycle. i like test prop, tren, for lean mass. i know a guy who ran a test prop, tren a, var cycle and at the end looked like he was carved out of marble. dont remember his dosages though.

Moto

maybe ill run that then. test prop week 1-10, tren ace week 1-8, and anavar week 5-8 at 50mg. i shouldnt have erectile problems if i did 500mg of test and 400mg of tren, right? i do have cialis on hand just in case of emergencies

[chuckt12345]

baby steps man

[MotoLifter]

baby steps man

yeah im gonna have to agree with chuckt in this. i was just mentioning what alot of people do for lean mass. but i wouldnt do it for a second cycle if i was you. try some test and EQ. i gained very good lean mass from that. tren is some POWERFUL stuff, and can really mess ya up if you dont know what your doing. save the tren for later in your cycle career. sorry to have miss led ya bro.

Moto

[AlphaMaleDawg]

yea I mean I know you and others will mostly say to do a few cycles before trying tren due to the sides, which is probably good advice. However, I have read a lot about tren and know about all the side effects people report (sweating profusely, out of breath, aggression and feeling pissed off all the time, etc) so I would kind of be prepared for it if I tried it. Under any other circumstances, I would do deca before tren but I dont want to look bloated or soft for a cruise. I want to look big and ripped. Last summer before I did AAS, I was medium sized but extremely ripped to the bone. I want to be much bigger and just as ripped this time around. I think tren would be better for that than deca

[MotoLifter]

well its your call, but eq can do some pretty good stuff too. if you do run tren make sure you have the proper anti's.


Moto

[glover]

The cycle looks fine no need to change it. That is a good cycle for second cycle. You will gain plenty of lean mass from that and do not need to change it.

Don't let all the suggestions otherwise persude you. I recommend you stick with original plan and save the other suggestions for another cycle. Your not preping for a contest just a cruise.

[BJJ]

maybe ill run that then. test prop week 1-10, tren ace week 1-8, and anavar week 5-8 at 50mg. i shouldnt have erectile problems if i did 500mg of test and 400mg of tren, right? i do have cialis on hand just in case of emergencies

This is your second cycle!
I would just try test prop for 10 weeks and add var the last 6 weeks.

[D7M]

This is your second cycle!
I would just try test prop for 10 weeks and add var the last 6 weeks.

agreed.

you can nice and cut for your cruise on prop/var.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

The cycle looks fine no need to change it. That is a good cycle for second cycle. You will gain plenty of lean mass from that and do not need to change it.

Don't let all the suggestions otherwise persude you. I recommend you stick with original plan and save the other suggestions for another cycle. Your not preping for a contest just a cruise.

this is true that I'm not doing a contest prep but it is kind of similar. so do you think sticking with my current plan of test-e, deca, and anavar will help me build muscle, but at the same time lean me out even more? right now if I flex my abs, they look great. id rather not have to flex too much for them to look great

This is your second cycle!
I would just try test prop for 10 weeks and add var the last 6 weeks.

agreed.

you can nice and cut for your cruise on prop/var.

i know this wont add as much muscle as test, deca, and var but will it lean me out more if i drop the deca and use prop instead of enanthate?