using the same steroid again less effective the second time?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

say someone runs test (for example) in a previous cycle and sees good gains. What if this person decided to use it again in their next cycle with the same dose. Would it be less effective the second time, since your body got accustomed to it?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

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[Necrosaro]

It depends on how long till the last time you used it.

[hankdiesel]

Nothing will beat the first cycle gains. Especially a second cycle at the same dose. You'll see nice gains but not like your previous cycle.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Nothing will beat the first cycle gains. Especially a second cycle at the same dose. You'll see nice gains but not like your previous cycle.

so it's really pointless not to increase the dose if you want to build serious muscle then, right?

[darkcrayz]

Nothing will beat the first cycle gains. Especially a second cycle at the same dose. You'll see nice gains but not like your previous cycle.

my question is what is the consensus as to what nice gains are? first cycle 20 lbs lean mass, second at the same dosage 15lbs, 10lbs, 5lbs? if youre still getting 15lbs that is good, 5lbs not so much.

[TITANIUM]

say someone runs test (for example) in a previous cycle and sees good gains. What if this person decided to use it again in their next cycle with the same dose. Would it be less effective the second time, since your body got accustomed to it?

It depends on the person.

Each person reacts differently.

Time on, dosage, stack, time off, ect....

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[bjpennnn]

i think people on here run more then they even need. I am finding that less is better with me. Maybe cuase i work harder and dont let the juice do everything.

[Bossman]

The body can only get so big. As you grow it gets harder and harder to gain lean mass. Not only do you have to vary and adjust your supplements but you also have to train harder. An advanced bodybuilder may only be able to put a few lbs of lean mass in a year while taking an array of AAS, GH and slin.

So its not so much that you get used to the compounds, but it's just getting more difficult to grow new muscle.

[ranging1]

The body can only get so big. As you grow it gets harder and harder to gain lean mass. Not only do you have to vary and adjust your supplements but you also have to train harder. An advanced bodybuilder may only be able to put a few lbs of lean mass in a year while taking an array of AAS, GH and slin.

So its not so much that you get used to the compounds, but it's just getting more difficult to grow new muscle.

BINGO, the general consensus is the BIGGER you are, and more steroids its going to take to get bigger becuase the further beyond ur genetic potential you are

its the reason why u see some idiots who cycle at 150 pounds gain 40 pounds on their first cycle, they can grow so easily since their no where near their genetic potential

if you were to have a 220 pound guy who can bench 405, sqaut 550, and deadlift 600 then he prob wouldnt gain that much off a simple 500mg testerone dosage since hes most likely surpassed his genetic potential awhile ago

this is the reason why pro bodybuiilders steroid dosages escalate continuously

[hankdiesel]

my question is what is the consensus as to what nice gains are? first cycle 20 lbs lean mass, second at the same dosage 15lbs, 10lbs, 5lbs? if youre still getting 15lbs that is good, 5lbs not so much.

Diet and training play huge roles. But, if I had to put a number on it I'd say 15lbs this time.

[darkcrayz]

Diet and training play huge roles. But, if I had to put a number on it I'd say 15lbs this time.

thank you. i assumed all else was constant. its just good to know you can expect roughly 75% of initial gains without having to switch compounds or up the dose.