Karachi Sus 250 Amp Height

[schrodinger123]

I received the amps in the picture together in one order from a supplier I have been getting good gear from. Most that he has sent me were short and squatty amps like you see on the left. However, this last order, he sent a bunch of these short ones with expy date 2/2014, then also sent some taller ones with expy date 1/2014. They all seem to be filled about the same, and my instinct tells me that these are probably good, but I want your opinions.

Do you guys think I should be concerned about amp height? Could it be that the machine that makes the amps was dialed in a bit differently on the day that they made the 1/2014 batch than it was when they made the 2/2014 batch?

I ran one of the taller ones yesterday just to see what it felt like, and it felt no diffferent from the shorter ones (little twinge of pain when you first start to inject, likely due to the prop.)

What do you guys think?

Thanks!

[schrodinger123]

Looking at these closely, I see that the amps are identical from he neck down. Its just that the top part is streteched out further on the 1/2014 ones. By looking at them, I think that there is the same amount of glass on the tall ones and the short ones, its just that it is stretched more on the taller ones. Is it possible that these came from the same factory? Maybe a different machine?

Heck, I don't know the first thing about making an ampuole. Anyone?

[anabolic1979]

i would say that the smaller one look like the real ones i always get. i am a little suspicious i have never seen that before

[skeldno]

Are the levels the same?

[schrodinger123]

Well, at first glance, I thought they were all filled the same. Now I am noticing that each of the exp date 1/2014 (taller) amps are filled a bit less than the others. And it is very consistent (all of the 1/2014 amps are at the same level, a little bit less, say .1 cc less than the 2/2014 amps). Now it could be that these amps are fatter, but I think now I am starting to wonder about these amps. I think I want to write my supplier and ask him whats up with these amps. When he sends the stuff, he will send a couple of boxes with the product, but didn't send a box that matched the suspicious stuff's lot number.

Thanks for pointing this out!

[schrodinger123]

Ok, so I pulled out all of my Karachi amps and gave them all a good look. It turns out that the fill level varies a bit from amp to amp. I think it is due to inconsistencies in glass shape. When I first looked at it, it looked like the 2/2014 were filled higher (because the few that I looked at WERE at a higher level... less than 10% difference.. you can see in my picture). But when I looked over all of them, I noticed that they all vary a bit a far as fill height regardless of date. All of them have a little glass 'nipple' on the top where I guess extra glass accumulates and solidifies. The liquid is the same color in all.

But the fill height is deceptive, because it still could be the same volume of liquid, just in a differently shaped vial. And the vial variability is the question in the first place, ie why are some of them taller than the others? So I decided to do a little experiment. Besides, shooting a couple extra amps cant possibly HURT my cycle...

So I took the fullest looking amp and the lowest level amp and pulled each into a separate syringe. I removed the dead space pushing the oil to the end of the needle on each. Here are the results: full looking amp: 1.1 cc. low-level amp 1.05 cc. So what appeared to be a very large difference in fill level turned out to be almost the same amount of liquid. Conclusion: these amps vary in diameter, height, and shape (volume). They could be legit, we are unsure, but my leaning is still that I think they may be OK.

Does this sound reasonable? Anyone know anything else that I should know?

Thanks again!

[jg2]

Ok, so I pulled out all of my Karachi amps and gave them all a good look. It turns out that the fill level varies a bit from amp to amp. I think it is due to inconsistencies in glass shape. When I first looked at it, it looked like the 2/2014 were filled higher (because the few that I looked at WERE at a higher level... less than 10% difference.. you can see in my picture). But when I looked over all of them, I noticed that they all vary a bit a far as fill height regardless of date. All of them have a little glass 'nipple' on the top where I guess extra glass accumulates and solidifies. The liquid is the same color in all.

But the fill height is deceptive, because it still could be the same volume of liquid, just in a differently shaped vial. And the vial variability is the question in the first place, ie why are some of them taller than the others? So I decided to do a little experiment. Besides, shooting a couple extra amps cant possibly HURT my cycle...

So I took the fullest looking amp and the lowest level amp and pulled each into a separate syringe. I removed the dead space pushing the oil to the end of the needle on each. Here are the results: full looking amp: 1.1 cc. low-level amp 1.05 cc. So what appeared to be a very large difference in fill level turned out to be almost the same amount of liquid. Conclusion: these amps vary in diameter, height, and shape (volume). They could be legit, we are unsure, but my leaning is still that I think they may be OK.

Does this sound reasonable? Anyone know anything else that I should know?

Thanks again!

ive got 40 amps of it sitting in front of me.... all mine are the same height...but if i look close there all different above the break line in some slight way....EVERYONE of them.. so if it was me i wouldnt worry...

IMHO......yg2g

[ryanjmd]

check and see if the spelling is correct on the amps, because the word propionate is spelt with a (i) on the legit karachi amps and not the (l) like on the fake karachi amps, also legit sust should numb your tongue when you taste it... anyways if spelling is good you should be gtg

[schrodinger123]

The amps have spelled propionate properly and the batch number and expy date are printed with correct font: dot matrix black, will rub off eventually with enough rubbing, etc.

I think that the last guy really answered my question about Karachis. He says all of his are different above the breakline... exactly what mine are like. Other than that, they are filled the same and are fundamentally the same across the board and they all match how Karachis should look. My question was about the shape of the amp above the breakline.

You know, I think I am going to switch sustanon brands, as I don't like all the variability with the Karachis. I got some 50 schreing Testoviron and these are all obviously real. From what I have seen, Karachis have thrown a lot of other guys off with this, and they are also widely faked. What would be a good choice for sustanon easily identified as good, and available in ampuoles (I don't like 10 ml vials... too easy to switch top)? Omnadren is good? Others?

[BG]

Theres always different sized amps.

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

^^^ Agreed. I have had the both the ones you have bro and was worried but I ran half and half in a cycle and had great gains all the way through.
Good luck.

[rocco38]

I received the amps in the picture together in one order from a supplier I have been getting good gear from. Most that he has sent me were short and squatty amps like you see on the left. However, this last order, he sent a bunch of these short ones with expy date 2/2014, then also sent some taller ones with expy date 1/2014. They all seem to be filled about the same, and my instinct tells me that these are probably good, but I want your opinions.

Do you guys think I should be concerned about amp height? Could it be that the machine that makes the amps was dialed in a bit differently on the day that they made the 1/2014 batch than it was when they made the 2/2014 batch?

I ran one of the taller ones yesterday just to see what it felt like, and it felt no diffferent from the shorter ones (little twinge of pain when you first start to inject, likely due to the prop.)

What do you guys think?

Thanks!

Did you get the boxes with them??? I saw the boxes for the 1/2014 ones...and the expiration date is printed on the box instead of being stamped/punched in with the real ones.... as for the amps, they are very well done....but batch number and expiration date is not printed exactly using the same dot matrix font....but very close..the best i ever seen so far from all other Karachi counterfeit...... put 4 to 5 drops on your tongue.... it should numb and taste Benzil Alcool.........
I heard they are still working.....but who knows??!!??
NOTE: I thought Abbot Karachi lost their license from Organon???!!?? Schering bought Organon now not long time ago....... anybody knows more about all this?????
Cheers

[Sheven]

is 100% genuine!

[Fzzza]

they are legit