Incomplete Proteins, Fiber, and Total Calories

[gbrice75]

I want to make sure that i'm being as accurate as possible when calculating my macros and total daily calories. So please confirm (or tell me i'm wrong) the 2 following statements:

1) Foods containing incomplete protein (beans, bread, etc.) should not have their protein considered when adding up protein macros for a meal. Example - 6oz of chicken breast is 36g of protein; if I eat that with a 1/2 cup of kidney beans, that's an additional 8g of protein - however total protein for that meal would still be 36g, correct? Having said that - should I STILL be counting the calories for that 8g of protein - so even though the protein is incomplete, I am still getting 32 calories from it?

2) When calculating carbs, fiber should not be counted towards total carbs. Example - 1/2 cup of oats contains 27g carbs. label lists 4g of dietary fiber - 2 soluble and 2 insoluble. So total carbs for this meal should be 25g since we're not counting the insoluble fiber, correct? Additional, I should NOT be counting the calories for the insoluble fiber, right?

The point is that alot of the foods i'm eating contain incomplete protein, and insoluble fiber. Because of this, when I hit my target macros for the day, my calories are way over my target due to the present but 'unusable' macros. Please advise!

[Narkissos]

I want to make sure that i'm being as accurate as possible when calculating my macros and total daily calories. So please confirm (or tell me i'm wrong) the 2 following statements:

Cool.

1) Foods containing incomplete protein (beans, bread, etc.) should not have their protein considered when adding up protein macros for a meal.

Wrong.

2) When calculating carbs, fiber should not be counted towards total carbs. Example - 1/2 cup of oats contains 27g carbs. label lists 4g of dietary fiber - 2 soluble and 2 insoluble. So total carbs for this meal should be 25g since we're not counting the insoluble fiber, correct? Additional, I should NOT be counting the calories for the insoluble fiber, right?

A toss-up really.

I count 'em.

Why?

Because soluble fiber is fermented in the intestines, yielding short-chain fatty acids... which in turn yield 3-4 calories per gram.

Generally foods contain a mix of soluble and insoluble fibers... (moreso soluble fibers however).

[kalspic]

i would count both they are still calories. nark made a post awhile back that stated that all the amino acids go into a pool and you body forms complete protien out of them. i couldnt find it but i would pm him to get the info

[gbrice75]

Cool.



Wrong.

Can you elaborate as to why? Is it what the post right after yours stated? So I should absolutely be counting bread, beans, pasta, peanuts, etc. proteins towards my total daily?



A toss-up really.

I count 'em.

Why?

Because soluble fiber is fermented in the intestines, yielding short-chain fatty acids... which in turn yield 3-4 calories per gram.

Generally foods contain a mix of soluble and insoluble fibers... (moreso soluble fibers however).

Understood - and we're usually only talking a few grams so it won't make or break anything. I was more concerned with the protein.

NARK!!!! - I PM'd you my cut diet a week or 2 ago - if/when you get a chance, can you please look it over and set me straight?!! I am dying to get this thing right once and for all!

[kalspic]

nark, if you know what im talking about can you post it up again. i want to add it to my favorites.