D-bol/tren/deca first timer.

[Ferdinand]

Hi, Am a 24 year old man and i've been traning seriously for about 7 years without any use of steroids.
I've now decided to use d-bol for 4 weeks then continue with a Tren/deca stack from there.
I have 2 questions:
Is Tren/Deca a good stack? and how dangerous is D-bol really on the heart?, i've heard some much about the side effects of D-bol, i dont know what to believe.

Help much appreciated.

[dec11]

no, tren and deca and dbol arent a wise combination, tren and deca are both 19nrs, and also tren aint a good on a 1st cycle period, very strong harsh drug. go for a simple test only cycle for 12wks for your 1st time and see how you react. research alot more and also pct protocols

[ottomaddox]

Awfull cycle, Say goodbye to your boners, Time to go back to the research table and start over. Most people would reccommend a Test only cycle for their first cycle. Tren/Deca, and d-bol would be a huge mistake. Three different compounds and no test on a first cycle,and two different 19-nors, can you say lactation.............

[Big]

I can't think of many ways you could make that worse, horrible idea.
Read the educational threads then get back with us.

[Ferdinand]

Ok, thanks for quick answers.
So something like this would be better?
1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

[chuckt12345]

Stats

[c-Z]

Stats

That would be nice... Huh?

[dec11]

Ok, thanks for quick answers.
So something like this would be better?
1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

you prob wouldnt need tht much dbol, but as asked, whats your stats?

[Ferdinand]

Am from Norway so i dont know what stats in lbs etc, but am 186 cm 105 kg, lean.

[chuckt12345]

AGE
Height
Weight
Cycle Exp
Body Fat %
Training exp yrs?
GF Pic

[dec11]

231lbs then

[Ferdinand]

AGE: 24
Height: 186 cm
Weight: 105 kg
Cycle Exp: none
Body Fat %: Dont know in % but am normally lean without fat.
Training exp yrs? 7

[chuckt12345]

yea basic beg test cycle,, go read up on pct and other basics. Then come back and post what you think is correct

[AlphaMaleDawg]

do this

test-e 500mg per week for 12 weeks

pct
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50

basic beginner cycle. this is what I did and I am pleased. dont mess with deca until second cycle

[c-Z]

do this

test-e 500mg per week for 12 weeks

pct
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50

basic beginner cycle. this is what I did and I am pleased. dont mess with deca until second cycle

Please don't just tell people to "DO THIS". because they will do exactly what you say. Without reading or knowing anything.

Here is a proper guideline as to what to do:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742\

With info as well on what is being jammed into his body when to start pct etc etc.

Your Friend,
c-Z

[Ferdinand]

I've now read up on all the "Important" posts and especially the beginners forums/threads.
I see that i was totally off with choosing tren/deca as my first time.

I will follow the Test beginners cycle wich C-T posted to start with.

U might say am glad i made this post before i started my putting things in my body.
Thanks for helping me out, much appreciated.

Just one last question, PCT stuff is that something i can buy in a pharmacy or a store or will i have to buy on the web and is it legal to perchase online?

[chuckt12345]

I've now read up on all the "Important" posts and especially the beginners forums/threads.
I see that i was totally off with choosing tren/deca as my first time.

I will follow the Test beginners cycle wich C-T posted to start with.

U might say am glad i made this post before i started my putting things in my body.
Thanks for helping me out, much appreciated.

Just one last question, PCT stuff is that something i can buy in a pharmacy or a store or will i have to buy on the web and is it legal to perchase online?

good thing, pct is illegal without prescription,, sort of like viagra. there are some loopholes where companies sell it as research chemicals. they sell it on this site ,, top right hand corner AR-R . or use google and research chems

[Ferdinand]

Ok, i see.
And lets say i order some stuff there in small amounts, will it be illegal for me to bring it into my country by mail?. Using steroids is allowed in Norway.
I have to be very carefull with not doing ANYTHING illegal due to my former lifestyle you might say.

[chuckt12345]

if its legal in norway then why not order it in norway?

[Ferdinand]

Its legal to use steroids in Norway, but not to sell them.. Edited