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    College Student needing advice before I make a mistake

    Hi I am 19 I go to oklahoma state university I wrestled all through highschool at 152lbs and since graduating last year with a knee injury i put on over fourty pounds of fat. I am ashamed of who I am and what I have to see in myself I am 5'11 195lbs. Is there such things as cutting steroids or should i take bulk and increase cardio. I understand you probably do not like people like me asking stupid questions but I am clueless I cant seem to find anyone who can tell me what to do and how to workout... Help please


    They sent me away from the steroid forum and suggest i come here because I am too young to start on a stack. could anyone help me with the right diet/workout to get me back on track thank you

    if i had a picture of myself would it help people's ability to lead me in the right direction?

    im sorry im not up with terms im not trying to annoy you i just really want to be satisfied with myself, what is my tdee? and explain to me the keto diet?
    Last edited by maxt918; 01-27-2010 at 09:35 PM. Reason: More questions that are still in my way...advice needed for diet

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    Don't do steroids it will make the situation worse. Trust me.

    You need to start doing these things:
    1. cardio, and lot's of it
    2. training - squats, lunges, deadlifts, bench press, pull ups, military press
    3. only drink water, no excuses or substitutes
    4. drop all sweets and definitely no dessert close to bed time
    5. eat clean and natural, stay away from processed food, try and eat things you can hunt/grow/pick, protein at every meal, no fast food, no bad fats, no sugar
    6. eat small meals often (6 times per day)
    7. no carbs before bed or after 7pm
    8. eat greens, they will fill you up, but not make you gain fat.

    If you have no idea what you are doing there is no point in creating a strict diet because you will most likely not stick to it. If you want more clarification I will be glad to help you out, as will many others. look at some diets on here and try to make some food meals like that. Ex. grilled chicken breast, skinless boneless, and spinach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
    Don't do steroids it will make the situation worse. Trust me.

    You need to start doing these things:
    1. cardio, and lot's of it
    2. training - squats, lunges, deadlifts, bench press, pull ups, military press
    3. only drink water, no excuses or substitutes
    4. drop all sweets and definitely no dessert close to bed time
    5. eat clean and natural, stay away from processed food, try and eat things you can hunt/grow/pick, protein at every meal, no fast food, no bad fats, no sugar
    6. eat small meals often (6 times per day)
    7. no carbs before bed or after 7pm
    8. eat greens, they will fill you up, but not make you gain fat.

    If you have no idea what you are doing there is no point in creating a strict diet because you will most likely not stick to it. If you want more clarification I will be glad to help you out, as will many others. look at some diets on here and try to make some food meals like that. Ex. grilled chicken breast, skinless boneless, and spinach.
    ^^^^now wasnt that easy---go get started

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    if i had a picture of myself would it help people's ability to lead me in the right direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxt918 View Post
    if i had a picture of myself would it help people's ability to lead me in the right direction?
    no---twist already pointed u in the right direction-he is 100% right----its what we all do-----most of us just have meals broke down specifically----if u want to get techincal, figure out ur tdee and set up a diet of 6 meals with foods u see in these other diets at 500 calories behind ur tdee and then post it up for tweaking.

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    im sorry im not up with terms im not trying to annoy you i just really want to be satisfied with myself, what is my tdee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxt918 View Post
    im sorry im not up with terms im not trying to annoy you i just really want to be satisfied with myself, what is my tdee?
    ur not annoying me at all---sorry if it came across like that-----tdee basically means the amount of calories u burn in a day with ur activity level----do a search in this forum on tdee---its an equation to help u figure it---once u know how many calories ur burning each day u will know how many u need to consume to lose weight----for instance my tdee is around 2700 so if i wanted to cut weight i would try and consume 500 cals less or 2200 a day----but eat those 2200 cals in 5-7 meals spaced 3 hours apart with the right food choices------------hope this helps-----btw tdee (total daily energy expenditure)

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    so if i was to want to get myself to where i am comfortable with a shirt off again like maybe like at least a 4 pack and toned up how long would i need to expect it to take me if i dedicate myself to getting there? like could you work with me ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxt918 View Post
    so if i was to want to get myself to where i am comfortable with a shirt off again like maybe like at least a 4 pack and toned up how long would i need to expect it to take me if i dedicate myself to getting there? like could you work with me ?
    whats ur bf% or post a pic

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    i wont have a picture until my sister gets out of the hospital but my bf% is roughly like 25% which is pathetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxt918 View Post
    so if i was to want to get myself to where i am comfortable with a shirt off again like maybe like at least a 4 pack and toned up how long would i need to expect it to take me if i dedicate myself to getting there? like could you work with me ?
    the more weight u lose the more confidence u have with ur body--its a mental thing---i went from 18% to maybe 7-8% in 13 weeks--of course everbodys different---just concentrate on eating the right diet and the good news is it will happen---oh yea get on that treadmill too

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    mg is the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxt918 View Post
    im sorry im not up with terms im not trying to annoy you i just really want to be satisfied with myself, what is my tdee?
    Total Daily Energy Expenditure. This is calculated by taking your lean body mass (LBM) and your daily activity level and giving you a guestimate on how many calories you use during an average day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
    mg is the man.
    thanks for the props---i learned from u guys

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    could i get someone to help me choose a diet? I want to get myself started

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    sure... Pick foods from these diets (they already have macros for the meals) and make it equal your tdee or whatever your calorie goal is.

    Foods For Thought
    PRO CARBS FAT CALS
    MEAL #1
    10 EGGS (8 WHITES 2YOKES) 60 0 16 384
    1.5 CUP OATMEAL 0 75 5 345

    MEAL#2 PWO
    PROTEIN SHAKE 60 0 2 240
    40 GRAMS DEXTROSE 0 40 0 160

    MEAL #3
    10 oz CHICKEN 60 0 5 285
    1 CUP OATMEAL 0 52 5 253

    MEAL #4
    3 salmon burgers 66 6 27 510
    4 oz pasta 0 54 2 234

    MEAL #5
    10 oz chicken 60 0 5 285
    1 cup rice 0 56 4 260
    ALMONDS 6 5 14 164

    MEAL #6
    2 turkeyburgers 70 4 10 400

    382 292 95 3520

    another
    • 400g Protein / 400g Carbs / 150g Fats
    • 4000+ Calories Daily / 8 = 500-600 Calories per Meal
    • 424g Protein / 397g Carbs / 151g Fat / 4656 Calories

    Supplements
    • Jack3d
    • Whey Protein
    • 100% Casein
    • Dextrose

    Meal One: Protein/Carb
    • 8 Egg Whites (1 Cup)
    • 1 Scoop Casein Protein
    • 1 1/4 Cup Oatmeal
    • 1 Scoop Jack3d
    60g Protein / 75g Carbs / 9g Fat / 615 Calories

    WORKOUT 1.5 Hours

    Meal Two: PWO (15-30 minutes after GYM)
    • 2 Scoops Whey Protein
    • 80g-100g Dextrose
    • 1 Bagel with Cream Cheese
    58g Protein / 68g Carbs / 8g Fat / 646 Calories

    Meal Three: PPWO (1.5-2 hours after PWO)
    • Chicken Breast (4oz)
    • 1/2 Cup Brown Rice
    • 1/4 Cup Black Beans
    • 1 Plain Bagel
    56g Protein / 72g Carbs / 12g Fat / 665 Calories

    Meal Four: Protein / Fat
    • Lean Ground Beef (5oz)
    • Swiss Cheese (2oz)
    • 1 Medium Potato
    • Small Portion Green Veggies
    45g Protein / 46g Carbs / 35g Fat / 584 Calories

    Meal Five: Protein / Carbs
    • Chicken Breast (4oz)
    • 1/2 Cup Brown Rice
    • 1/4 Cup Black Beans
    • 1 Plain Bagel
    56g Protein / 72g Carbs / 12g Fat / 665 Calories


    Meal Six: Protein / Fat
    • 2 Cans of Tuna
    • 2 Tbsp Mayonnaise
    • (1/2 Cup Oatmeal with less than ½ Cup Milk)
    • Veggies
    31g Protein / 33g Carbs / 26g Fat / 490 Calories

    Meal Seven: Protein / Fat
    • Lean Ground Beef (7oz)
    • 2 Tbsp Peanut Butter with Celery
    46g Protein / 10g Carbs / 46g Fat / 600 Calories

    Meal Eight: Before Bed
    • 3 Scoops of Casein Protein
    • 1.5 Tbsp Flax Seed Oil
    72g Protein / 21g Carbs / 3g Fat / 390g Calories

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    Lean Bulk Diet
    Morning Shake 6:00AM
    1 scoop 100% whey protein
    1 cup soy milk
    P31g. C9g. F6g.

    Breakfast 6:30AM
    2 scrambled eggs
    1 cup eggs white
    1tbsp olive oil
    1/2cup of sweet potato fries
    1 multivitamin
    1 cup water
    P40g. C42g. F24g.

    Snack 8:30AM
    1/4 cup oatmeal
    1/2 cup cottage cheese
    1tbsp sugar free jelly
    2tbsp penut butter
    Water
    P26g. C60g. F20g.

    Lunch 12:00PM
    8 oz turkey, chicken, beef or fish
    1 cup sweet potato or wild rice
    1/2 cup broccoli , spinach , carrots etc
    1g vitamin C
    Water
    P60g. C55g. F12g.

    Snack 3:30PM
    2 slices whole grain bread
    2oz tuna
    1 Tbsp light mayo
    1oz almonds
    1Vitamin B complex
    Water
    P29g. C45g. F21g.

    Preworkout 5:00AM
    1 scoop of whey protein
    1 cup soy milk
    P31g. C9g. F6g.

    During Workout 6:30AM
    1 serving Scivitation Xtend
    3.5g leucine
    1.7g isoleucine
    1.7g valine
    2.5g glutamine
    1.0g citruline malate
    2.0g beta alanine
    2 cups water

    Postworkout 7:00PM
    2 scoop ON whey protein
    1 cup soy milk
    1 banana
    2 tbsp condensed milk
    P60g. C50g. F9g.

    Diner 8:00PM
    Same as lunch
    1g *****-3 EFA
    P60g. C50. F12.

    10:00PM
    1 serving of ZMA
    Water

    Late Snack11:00PM
    1 scoop ON casein protein
    2tbsp Penut Butter
    Water
    P32g. C8g. F17g.


    Protein 369g=1476cal=38%
    Carbs 328g=1312cal=33%
    Fats 127g=1143cal=29%
    Total Calories 3931


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    7:45 250 ml of egg whites
    2 small tortillas, mushrooms, fat free cheese & salsa
    1 English muffin with no sugar added jam & peanut butter
    15 gm of whey protein
    25 gm of oatmeal

    10:15 1 1/2 can of tuna
    15 ml of flax seed oil

    12:45 8 eggs & green onion & light mayo (makes an egg salad)
    3 pieces of whole-wheat bread w/ ham
    1 banana
    15 gm of whey protein
    1 yogurt

    3:15 1 1/2 can of tuna
    15 ml of flax seed oil

    5:15 120 gm of steak
    20 gm of whey protein
    Mustard
    50 gm of carrots
    5 ml of flax seed oil

    1 HOUR TRAINING START 6:00PM to 7:00PM

    7:15 60 gm of whey
    5 rice cakes (caramel flavored)
    1 apple
    2.5 ml of flaxseed oil

    9:30 125 gm of cottage cheese
    15 gm of whey protein
    1 no sugar added fat free yogurt

    TOTAL CARBS: 300 GM – 1200 calories
    TOTAL PROTEIN 320 GM – 1280 calories
    APPROX TOTAL FAT: 63 GM – 567 calories
    TOTAL CALORIES: 3047 calories per day

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    Meal 1:
    1 whole eggs
    4 egg whites
    1 scoop whey
    1C oats
    11g fish oil
    44/54/17

    Meal 2:
    6.7 oz chicken breast
    1/4C quinoa
    1/2C black beans
    1-3C veggies
    1/2oz almonds
    6g fish oil
    42/55/18

    Meal 3:
    6.7 oz chicken breast
    1/4C quinoa
    1/2C black beans
    1-3C veggies
    1/2oz almonds
    6g fish oil
    42/55/18

    Meal 4:
    1C tuna
    1tbs mayo
    1/4C quinoa
    1/2C black beans
    1-3C veggies
    5g fish oil
    40/55/20

    Meal 5:
    6.7oz lean ground beef
    1/4C quinoa
    1/2C black beans
    1-3C veggies
    5g fish oil
    40/55/17

    Meal 6:
    6.7oz lean ground beef
    1/4C quinoa
    1/2C black beans
    1-3C veggies
    5g fish oil
    40/55/17

    Actual totals:
    248g pro. (~30%)/ 329g carb. (~40%)/ 107g fat (~30%)
    992 cal/ 1316 cal/ 963 cal
    3271kcal.

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