My Second cycle

[johnCash]

About to start my second cycle in 2 months and just trying to decide what exactly to do.
my first cycle i did
week 1-4 dbols 20-40 mg p/day
week 1-12 test 400 at 400-500mg p/week
had good results with basically no negative sides.
pct week 1-4 nolva 40/40/20/20

now im thinking of doing something like this for my second
week 1-4 dbols 25-50mg p/day
week 1-12 test e at 500-600 mg p/week
week 1-12 eq at 400-500 mg p/week or week 1-12 masteron at 400mg p/w
week ? hcg

pct week 1-4 nolva 40/40/20/20
week 1-4 clomid 50/50/25/25
week ? clen

is that too many compounds for a second cycle?
should i go with eq or masteron? and at what dose
and should i use hcg and or clen in the cycle/pct?

[D7M]

age?
height?
weight?
body fat?
yrs training?

[johnCash]

age? 25 yrs
height? 5'11
weight? 170 lbs
body fat? prob around 10%
yrs training about 8yrs with a couple off in the middle

[ranging1]

age? 25 yrs
height? 5'11
weight? 170 lbs
body fat? prob around 10%
yrs training about 8yrs with a couple off in the middle

ur pretty light for someone whos run a cycle?

how much u gain of your first cycle? and keep?

anyways as for ur second cycle

at your bodyweight i couldnt see why you wouldnt gain REALLY well off either cycles like this

weeks 1-2 dbol 40mg daily
weeks 1-12 test prop 600mg

or alternative cycle

week 1: test prop 1000mg
weeks 2-12: test prop 600mg weekly

i suggested the second cycle if you dont like dbol, i personaly didnt and i found frontloading injectable steroids much more effective

as to you suggestions, i wouldnt bother with masteron unless ur bf& is fairly low and you goal is to really cut down

as for eq, it alright, but i dont see the need to add it in for a guy of your bodyweight, its just not needed, the extra anabolic effect you get from it wont be utalised and youll be just wasting gear and your money, so i dont see why bother

[johnCash]

gained 25 and kept 18 so i cant complain. i know how to diet ive just been battling allergies the last few years so my weight is low.
and im thinking about going with the eq over the masteron cause im prone to mpb and just read that masteron can be pretty harsh on your hairline. ive read too that eq is fairly weak and doesnt really give you the best gains but i like that it increases the appetite tho.
does anybody recommend anything else for a second cycle?

[D7M]

or alternative cycle

week 1: test prop 1000mg
weeks 2-12: test prop 600mg weekly

^^I don't see the point in frontloading a short ester at all.

Anyway, I agree, you're bit light for your height after one cycle: don't be afraid to visit the diet forum before you begin your cycle

What are you goals of the cycle? I don't think you'll see too much out of EQ, but if you run it, run the test a week longer than the EQ.

Use HCG on cycle, if you choose to.

Otherwise, it looks fine.

[johnCash]

goals are just to gain lean mass. im 170 now and want to get up to around 200 and stay there so prob another 2 cycles. ya ill prob not do eq then since so many people say you wont notice much out of it.
Do you recommend taking deca on a second cycle? i like the sounds of it but dont want to risk any erectile dysfunction side effects. i rather lose my hair than have ed

[ranging1]

^^I don't see the point in frontloading a short ester at all.

Anyway, I agree, you're bit light for your height after one cycle: don't be afraid to visit the diet forum before you begin your cycle

What are you goals of the cycle? I don't think you'll see too much out of EQ, but if you run it, run the test a week longer than the EQ.

Use HCG on cycle, if you choose to.

Otherwise, it looks fine.

just coz their is still a delay till it actually peaks, obviously he doesnt have to its a suggestion coz some people just hate the lag time till blood levels peak

anyways agree i personaly wouldnt run eq for appetite, at 170 pounds i dont think youll need that many calories to gain bodyweight

better off saving eq for future cycles when your heavier and going to need something to get ur appetite into kick


also i noticed OP your really keen on adding in a second compound? lol

dont bother, testerone is one of the most powerful steroids around, and is still considered today the best OVERALL steroid for every purpose in bodybuilding

dont worry about adding in something like deca, or eq n such its just not needed, i personaly only would use deca for my joints in future cycles since it helps lubricate them (very handy if your lifting heavy weights and dont want joint issues) so if you really wanted to add in deca i think that a LOW dosage of it would be good for ur joints and give you a mild anabolic effect

that said though testerone is still what is going to work the magic