Next Cycle what you think?

[syd-bloke]

HGH 7ius ed 26 weeks (can increase dose plz comment)
Test e 250 eod 14 weeks
Sus 250 eod 14 weeks
Tri Tren (need dosage help)
Dbol 50mg 4 weeks (need it, not? since there is tren a in Tri tren)

Currently 10%bf, aiming for 8% before I start this cycle, currently on pct for last cycle. Never used Tren and I know its best to start with single tren but cant get it in Aus, the only tren a here is from BD and its fake.

Questions:

1) I can start HGH at 7 ius ed prior to this cycle and keep it going through and past. For max gain, should I increase dose or just drop the HGH? (guys i know its expensive and all that shit, can we get passed that)

2) last 1250mg pw of test didnt really give me ideal gain as it was my 6th cycle (gained 8kg of mass). Should I increase the above test dose or keep it as is?

3) Tri tren, asuming it wont give me any sides, what dose will suit my goal?

4) Dbol @50mg ed, need it?

5) PCT, got Nolva in hand and can get anything else, please advice. I never get any gyno or lose hair but get massive acnes on my back only. I have Arimidex and was thinking of using 0.5mg eod just incase.

Im seeking advice from pros only so if you reply by saying "provide stats", ill hack into your computer and steal your naked photos with pink fluffy play bunny outfit and upload it to youtube.

Thanks

[ranging1]

arent you the guy that was cutting on bunk prop?

anyways man im nto going to advise on HGH since ive never used it, so ill leave that to someone else

dbol for at 50mg as a kicker might be abit much, do you like dbol? or u just using it purely since its the only kicker you have available?

why are you using tri tren? couldnt get your hands on acetate? im from aus and was able to get ATEC version of it pretty easily

anyways whats the dosage of your tri tren?

im going to say 350mg of tren weekly is a good starting dosage for a first time tren user

very descent test dosage your running i have to say, do you usually run test this high? what dosages have you previously run for test?

[syd-bloke]

arent you the guy that was cutting on bunk prop?

anyways man im nto going to advise on HGH since ive never used it, so ill leave that to someone else

dbol for at 50mg as a kicker might be abit much, do you like dbol? or u just using it purely since its the only kicker you have available?

why are you using tri tren? couldnt get your hands on acetate? im from aus and was able to get ATEC version of it pretty easily

anyways whats the dosage of your tri tren?

im going to say 350mg of tren weekly is a good starting dosage for a first time tren user

very descent test dosage your running i have to say, do you usually run test this high? what dosages have you previously run for test?

Cant get ATEC gear since they dont manufacture in Aus any more so I assume what you got is either too old or fake bro.
Last test use was 1250mg pw.
My dbol is from Thailand and its under dosed as usual. So 50mg is actually 30mg. If not, then i thought 50mg is on the safe line but dbol was optional pending advice so was Tren dosage.

Cheers

[syd-bloke]

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[ranging1]

Cant get ATEC gear since they dont manufacture in Aus any more so I assume what you got is either too old or fake bro.
Last test use was 1250mg pw.
My dbol is from Thailand and its under dosed as usual. So 50mg is actually 30mg. If not, then i thought 50mg is on the safe line but dbol was optional pending advice so was Tren dosage.

Cheers

must be old then, coz my gears been working great for me

you sure they stopped manufacturing? ive been able to get hands on the stuff real easy, and its very effective, used it twice now and still able to get it........, but i dotn think mines from aus since source keeps going overseas to get the stuff

rekon i could send pics of it to you? since u know what ATEC looks like maybe u can verify if mine looks the same?


okay well considering tren, i think 350-400mg is good dosage, ull see very noticable results, however since its ur first time using tren i would lower you test dosages to 1000mg, since tren is a pretty dam powerful compound i dont see the need for high test dosages

as for dbol, have you ever considering maybe just frontloading your testerone esters instead of using dbol? i persoanly am not a fan of dbol, and as you said its underdosed, so maybe u could frontload your test ester instead?

[CanYouDigIt]

I'm just wondering if the stats in your profile are correct, and if they are, I am confuse, because your taking so much gear for your size,

Dbol / Sus or E / Tren should be plenty and even more then sufficient.


can you acknowledge if the stats in your profile are correct,

[chuckt12345]

wow thats 1750mg of test a wk,, you dont need that much.
let the tren to the work,, if you never ran tren i would start at 400mg/wk
and why 7 ius ed?

[syd-bloke]

wow thats 1750mg of test a wk,, you dont need that much.
let the tren to the work,, if you never ran tren i would start at 400mg/wk
and why 7 ius ed?

Hey Chucky, reason im takin that much of test is because I never get any sides from test (well used 1500mg pw 2 years ago and all went good). Can do 1250mg of combined sus and e and tren 400?

7ius ed will yield a noticable gain in short term if stacked with test.

Cheers

[Phate]

Hey Chucky, reason im takin that much of test is because I never get any sides from test (well used 1500mg pw 2 years ago and all went good). Can do 1250mg of combined sus and e and tren 400?

7ius ed will yield a noticable gain in short term if stacked with test.

Cheers

that's not a reason, it's an excuse, i can take 450mcg/day of clen and be fine, but do i do it, no

you are only hurting yourself using that much test, focus on diet that's whats lacking IMO

[syd-bloke]

that's not a reason, it's an excuse, i can take 450mcg/day of clen and be fine, but do i do it, no

you are only hurting yourself using that much test, focus on diet that's whats lacking IMO

yes phate i underestand your point but my diet is gonna be high protein and low fat as im intending to stay at 8%bf and gotta watch what I eat. I can stay on 1250mg pw and take 400mg of tren pw or you recommend 1000mg of test with 400mg of tren? See I personally rather to stay low with tren (dont know if im gonna get sides or not) and take higher chances on test but as I said above, i can shoot 1250 or even 1000mg pw.

Cheers

[Phate]

yes phate i underestand your point but my diet is gonna be high protein and low fat as im intending to stay at 8%bf and gotta watch what I eat. I can stay on 1250mg pw and take 400mg of tren pw or you recommend 1000mg of test with 400mg of tren? See I personally rather to stay low with tren (dont know if im gonna get sides or not) and take higher chances on test but as I said above, i can shoot 1250 or even 1000mg pw.

Cheers

i think that less is definitely more in this case, using the lowest dosage possible to get the results you want is the best thing you can do IMO

[syd-bloke]

i think that less is definitely more in this case, using the lowest dosage possible to get the results you want is the best thing you can do IMO

Ok thanks champ, ill stay on 1000mg test pw and 400mg of tren pw.

Cheers

[Phate]

Ok thanks champ, ill stay on 1000mg test pw and 400mg of tren pw.

Cheers

take care bro, keep us updated

[proironaust]

hi mate
I would start low on the all the supps and work your way up to a high dose depends what your goals are.personally if i was bulking i would start with this
test combined total 500mg/week for 4 weeks
tren 200mg a week for 4 weeks
than every 4 weeks double dose
depending on how you are going you might want to run the 8-12 weeker like this
test combined total 1500mg a week
tren 600mg ew
d-bol 50mg a day
I find by starting low like this you will get better gains than jumping in the deep end with a shit load of gear.
Also if you cant handle the sides of tren dont go to high because that shit will **** youu mentally i used 200mg ed of tren ace for a bit to see how far i could push it but i will never do that again(****s your head) i personally wouldnt use more than 75mg a day from now on.
goodluck keep us updated
cheers

[Phate]

hi mate
I would start low on the all the supps and work your way up to a high dose depends what your goals are.personally if i was bulking i would start with this
test combined total 500mg/week for 4 weeks
tren 200mg a week for 4 weeks
than every 4 weeks double dose
depending on how you are going you might want to run the 8-12 weeker like this
test combined total 1500mg a week
tren 600mg ew
d-bol 50mg a day
I find by starting low like this you will get better gains than jumping in the deep end with a shit load of gear.
Also if you cant handle the sides of tren dont go to high because that shit will **** youu mentally i used 200mg ed of tren ace for a bit to see how far i could push it but i will never do that again(****s your head) i personally wouldnt use more than 75mg a day from now on.
goodluck keep us updated
cheers

start your own thread, don't hijack someone else's

[proironaust]

start your own thread, don't hijack someone else's

wtf im trying to give this guy some advice.Sure i listed some of my own stuff but it had to do with his cycle.It was on side effects etc.
What do u want me to do just agree with everything on the board.Im giving this guy a view from my point from what ive learnt from both mistakes and experinces from some cycles ive ran

[t-gunz]

Cant get ATEC gear since they dont manufacture in Aus any more so I assume what you got is either too old or fake bro.
Last test use was 1250mg pw.
My dbol is from Thailand and its under dosed as usual. So 50mg is actually 30mg. If not, then i thought 50mg is on the safe line but dbol was optional pending advice so was Tren dosage.

Cheers

not old or fake mate.... if you cant get it then thats no worries... you seem to get other gear.. just try and not get any more bunk gear ay ;P

guys here seemt to take it and get results...

[Phate]

wtf im trying to give this guy some advice.Sure i listed some of my own stuff but it had to do with his cycle.It was on side effects etc.
What do u want me to do just agree with everything on the board.Im giving this guy a view from my point from what ive learnt from both mistakes and experinces from some cycles ive ran

my bad, that quote wasn't meant for you, i was answering several threads at once and mis-quoted, my apologies

[ranging1]

not old or fake mate.... if you cant get it then thats no worries... you seem to get other gear.. just try and not get any more bunk gear ay ;P

guys here seemt to take it and get results...

[dr180]

ATEC it definatly not fake and still around