deca vs test gains question

[Jbert22]

Im sure test will give more gains but in the end will you be able to keep more of the gains from deca? Ive heard that deca will not give the same gains as test but the gains are easier to keep. so which would be better? and im sure deca is just as bad as test is at shuting youre hormones down right?

[bjpennnn]

Bro you need to run test with every cycle as a base. Some may argue that (with compounds such as anavar), but with deca you have to run test or be prepared do have deca dick which mean no boning. Also talk about depresson. Do yourseld a favor you have been here since august have 110 posts and did not know that? Read up man.

[Jbert22]

ive read alot. dont insult me because i had a question. i am for running test with any cycle. ive have heard alot round the gym bout deca and since its not my favorite compound i do not not much about it except it lubes the joints and has a long ester. keep your posts to yourself if u feel like u gota be an ass ; )

[bjpennnn]

how can you say you have read a lot and now know that? how about you give us this,
stats?
age
weight
bf%
cycle exp:
training exp:
pct?
diet?

[Jbert22]

im not running any cycle. and i told you once i have read. im on this damn site everyday. AND I JUST TOLD YOU I DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT DECA BECUASE ITS NOT A COMPOUND I HAVE EXTENSIVELY RESEARCHED. il give you my stats. and im not cycling.
23
165
12%
5 years
pct? who said i was cycling
diet? 6 meals a day 1.35 g/protein day 500 carbs aday. (ectomorph)
and you left out height which is 5'11''

never said i was cycling. reread the thread. i didnt join this site to be told to read BECAUSE I HAVE. i have made alot of posts and i think i know more than the average bear.

[bjpennnn]

Bro i am not knocking you calm down.

but guess what go here http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

[-Ender-]

op: for future reference;drop the caps and don't complain when someone responds to your thread.

[Jbert22]

ok well i thought you would post something positive. you are knocking me. that is a huge slap in my face.

[bjpennnn]

how is that a huge slap in the face i am trying to help you out. You came here for an answer and you got it. Just cause you dont like it dont throw a hissy fit.

[Jbert22]

so if i just gave you my diet and full stats. im not eating right? nobody said i was turning to anabolics. i had a question. that still has not been answered wich really doesnt matter. i will complain when somebody has bs to say instead of a helpfull comment. thats why this site was developed. but i am sorry for the caps just wanted to make my point

[-Ender-]

well the average bear eats more than you do. hence the direction.
deca is a fairly easy compound to research.

[Jbert22]

dude i told you i was not cycling!! do you understand that? i was just curious at the most because i was told by alot of people from here that deca gains are more solid and easier to hold on to. if you do not know then dont point me to the forum that tells me im underweight. does that expain to you why im aggrevated?

[bjpennnn]

no man just the stuff you saying shows how uneducated you are on these topics. And they are like white belt moves in the world of steroids.

[iNsAnEtHaBrain]

hahaha. im sorry but i just love conversations like that.

how long does an apple tree lifes???

[bjpennnn]

lolllll

[Jbert22]

i gota dissagree bro. i am educated on AAS. deca in medical fields is used for people with debelitating diseases. it is used in most cycles to lubricate joints and give lean solid gains. thats why i was asking if the lean solid gains would be more "keepable" than the bloating from test. OH and also bj penn sucks!! ; )

[bjpennnn]

bloating from test? Man i dunno i dont bloat when i take test. i would say i bloat more from deca for sure. but it all depends on are you ready....diet.

[Jbert22]

yes but alot of water retention from test. deca will not cause the water retention test will (U should know this your a senior member). i believe thats why the little bit that is gained from deca will hold. plus it is not processed as fast from the body as test and trust me on this one i know my shit. i want sombody who has ran a deca only cycle to chime in since all you want to do is send me to the diet forum. Oh and bj penn still sucks

[c-Z]

Deca isnt as much of lean solid gains as NPP is. Deca you will bloat some.

[Jbert22]

Thank you for your post C.

[bjpennnn]

dude the people that ran deca only cycles are are the ones like you that know their shit are ****ing hating themselves.

[Jbert22]

ok u just made no sense whatsoever. please post it again with a higher IQ

[bjpennnn]

they are idiots is my point, dude congrats on the saints.

[bjpennnn]

I am done talking cause i am not going to waste bandwidth arguing with you but if you ever head down to southern california let me know we can have this talk in person.

[Jbert22]

well thank you for the congrats on the saints. and im not here to make enemy's. i just cant stand negative posts. i will forget the fact that we totally disagree on this and i hope that we can be friends. besides, what better way to figure shit out than to have two different opinions. Oh and i was bored when i posted this question. i would never run deca alone. i just wanted some opinion on it because ive had med students at the gym telling me bout it.

[Jbert22]

buy me a ticket and il be there the next day

[darkcrayz]

Im sure test will give more gains but in the end will you be able to keep more of the gains from deca? Ive heard that deca will not give the same gains as test but the gains are easier to keep. so which would be better? and im sure deca is just as bad as test is at shuting youre hormones down right?

deca will shut you down harder then test. easier to keep? probably not since it shuts you down harder and recovery takes longer.

based on how you word your post man it sounds like you are asking whether to take test or deca. and i quote, ve heard that deca will not give the same gains as test but the gains are easier to keep. so which would be better?" running them together is better, if you are only running one compound then test, and always test.

[dezza6969]

Bro you need to run test with every cycle as a base. Some may argue that (with compounds such as anavar), but with deca you have to run test or be prepared do have deca dick which mean no boning. Also talk about depresson. Do yourseld a favor you have been here since august have 110 posts and did not know that? Read up man.

mate bjpenn is just giving u good advice here i dont know why u would knock him. i think its a fair assumption that anyone who even asks about running a 19-nor solo without test needs to do more reading

[lovbyts]

WTF is with the attitude. 80% of you post/reply are giving people sh*t for responding to your thread. It's a good thing you are not doing any cycles, you are already a prick.

Deca does cause bloating with some people. So does Test. everyone reacts differently.

If you have been working out for 5 years and only weight 165 lbs and you are 5' 11" then whoever gave you the link to the diet section is right on unless it is the skinny/lean look you want and not big/lean.

[v44vendetta]

I'm new to this but i was told to do Deca with test or deca with winstrol. I was told not to do deca alone. Also after your cycle ends you will need to use clomid. I done some reasearch and it seems everyone agrees to this.