this is my next cycle , what do you think ?

[crazy trucker]

Im 26 ,220 pounds and fairly lean . Not sure my exact bf % and this is my
5th cycle .

I want to run for 15 weeks with a base of 800 mg of test 400 . The first 10 weeks im going to use 400 mg of tren e and the first 5 i will also use 40 mg a day of d bol a day . Now im debating using halo for the last 5 weeks , i would think around 30 mg a day since this is the only one i havent used before .

Any opinions or advice would be appreciated .

[c-Z]

Much easier to understand when you break it down....

SO:
Weeks 1-15 Test E 800mgs
Weeks 1-10 Tren E 400mgs
Weeks 1-5 Dbol 40mgs
Weeks 11-15 Halo 30mg

?

[D7M]

What's your cycle experience?

[crazy trucker]

ya breaking it down like that does make more sense ,good idea .

my last two cycles have been the same length . ive found that works good for me , i dont believe in running much longer than that for a cycle . Ive previously used d bol for the same amount of time and quantity . ive used 750mg of cypionate before but i like the combination that is in the 400 i get now . my last cycle i ended the last 6 weeks with 50 mg of anavar. anavar is good i just want something stronger to end with .

i hope thats enough of an idea of what ive done .

[c-Z]

Personally I see no problem with it.... I see a lot of guys start with drol or dbol and end with some oral winny.... Have you ever ran tren e? or tren a before? You do realize the side affects that come along with that?

[crazy trucker]

yeah ive used tren e before . ive found im more comfortable with the longer ester compounds . as far as side effects ive certainly done my reading on that . Havent had any problems yet. might keep t3 on hand just in case . a mild dose of that should level off any problems with the tren .

[FranciscoG]

Are you actually seeing gains past week 10?

When are you seeing your gains start (week #) and when do you notice gains slowing down.

[Vitruvian-Man]

cycle looks good. Halo makes me crazy (just like tren does), so watch out! lol, you may be raging out for the next 15 weeks straight.

-VM

[crazy trucker]

In my last cycle my weight and strength started to climb around 2 to 3 weeks . my weight levelled off around week 8 or 9 but i kept getting a little srtonger right to the end . it was a really succesful run overall .

[FranciscoG]

^That is almost the same line of thought from the last 4 times I asked this question, in the last week.^

Had great gains the 3 weekish. 8-10 gains stopped. I did get some gains after that but not much.

I need to write it all up, but in basic. If your myostatin is upregulating at the 8th week and you stop your gains or slow them down to a small haul shortly after, why run 15 weeks. AAS are not exactly free, so why waist it.

Get on 8 weeks, take your PCT and get back on.

[bjpennnn]

^That is almost the same line of thought from the last 4 times I asked this question, in the last week.^

Had great gains the 3 weekish. 8-10 gains stopped. I did get some gains after that but not much.

I need to write it all up, but in basic. If your myostatin is upregulating at the 8th week and you stop your gains or slow them down to a small haul shortly after, why run 15 weeks. AAS are not exactly free, so why waist it.

Get on 8 weeks, take your PCT and get back on.

agreed.

[crazy trucker]

Not that im questioning your knowledge because you guys are clearly more experienced than i am on the subject . but i made good strengh gains right to the end and was able to keep it post cycle . thats my reasoning for running longer , im training a cross between powerlifting and bodybuilding so the strengh part is important .

[RANA]

I like the test/tren/halo combo, I will be running it in April.
15 weeks seems a bit long to me

[crazy trucker]

how long are you running ?

[RANA]

how long are you running ?

I'm running prop/tren a for about 9-10 wks with prop one wk longer then tren and halo my last 4 wks

[crazy trucker]

How much prop / tren ? I havent tried prop , i used npp before and didnt have the best of luck with the short ester .

[RANA]

I love short esters, I run my prop at 50mg ED and tren A at 100 mg ED
don't forget caber or bromo

[crazy trucker]

really , thats alot more tren then test, dont most people do the opposite ?

[RANA]

I'm on my phone right now so I can't get the thread but do a search in the Q&A called "Am I ready for tren?" this will explain a lot of your questions

[Vitruvian-Man]

really , thats alot more tren then test, dont most people do the opposite ?

Well it doesn't really matter bro. Some more experienced users like to opt to keep their tren dosage high, and allow it to do more of the work. Whereas, people who are newer to tren often opt for the lower dosage (often meaning, fewer sides.) and keep the test ~ average.

-VM

[RANA]

really , thats alot more tren then test, dont most people do the opposite ?

OK I just got back so here you go: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=413262

[crazy trucker]

thanks alot guys this is all pretty helpful and might change the way I look at a few things . Always open to criticism or advice .

[RANA]

BTW how tall are you?

I think you should contemplate if you would prefer using a short ester over a long ester, once you deside why don't you post the cycle you would like to run to include PCT and this will help us all give our opinion

[crazy trucker]

im 5'11 ,

pct starts two weeks after last shot.
week 1 , 1 hcg first day and 150 mg clomid daily
week 2and 3 , 1 hcg a week in two separate shots and 100mg clomid daily
week 4 clomid only at 100mg daily
week 5 clomid only at 50mg daily